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Post by karlpalaka on Apr 25, 2020 8:55:12 GMT 10
When I was a kid in 2000, I thought 20 years from now I'd be able to give a physical hug to my relatives abroad through the Internet somehow. Instead we have Zoom and Facebook which is actually not that much better than the technology of 2000 other than the number of connections you can make lol. To be honest, even in 2050, I dont the technology would be significantly more advanced than it was in the 90s. I mean it will be more advanced, but not at all how those future movies portray it. Around 2008, when I saw a movie set in the future for the first time, I thought we would be close to flying cars and robots as the movie was set in 2050, but nah, it is not going to happen anytime soon. Yes, we have self driving cars and android robots, but self driving cars may be banned due to all the complaints and android robots are only used in private government facilities. Back to the Future 2 was released in 1989 and it assumed that 2015 would be like 2050 was in that 2008 movie I saw. I mean this has been going on for decades already. I think we get the idea that is not doable within that time range cause there are so many alternate futures possible. One being a utopian future in which people can lie down and relax in which people can print food out and just eat it along with other super advanced technology while another could be a post-apocalyptic future in which civilization has died and it is every person for itself and technology would just be primitive. You could actually give a hug to your relatives abroad through the Internet even during the 90s with Webex. Only difference between now and 2000 is that tablets, smart phones, social media, smart watches, and virtual homing systems came into existence.
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Post by God Less America on Apr 26, 2020 20:31:23 GMT 10
While many people in this country accepts and indeed favours the government's approach to tackling coronavirus through a lockdown, Peter Hitchens is a lonely dissenting voice, arguing that the UK approach is disproportionate to the threat it presents.
While the state's advice is to stay at home and socially distance from others, Hitchens says he's concerned about the economic consequence of this will be worse than the damage caused by the virus itself.
(Peter Hitchens is a columnist for The Daily Mail)
I don't see how the lockdown is disproportionate to the problem?
We've lost 20,000 lives in four weeks - what might the toll have been without lockdown?
On the other hand, after 4 weeks of lockdown the UK had another 800 deaths and it seems to be an average daily rate.
More and more people are beginning to ignore the advice to stay at home now and perhaps the warm weather and the ensuing summer will be a game-changer: people just aren't going to stay indoors.
I do think that we should gradually ease people back into work where social distancing is possible and maybe the first thing for Boris to do at his desk tomorrow morning is to ditch HS2.
What is the point of continuing with it - surely saving lives and protecting front line health workers is more important than making a journey from London to Nottingham twelve minutes faster.
Bo-Jo is raring to go apparently and will have some decision making to do in the face of opposition to the lockdown continuing. He has been very Conservative in not giving the police absolute power of enforcement and in my opinion there are just too many caveats and grey areas.
No wonder then as people can see they have a choice, many choose to go about their daily lives, some wearing PPE and some not.
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Post by sman12 on Apr 28, 2020 6:29:02 GMT 10
The US just hit a million cases (Worldometer)  
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Post by karlpalaka on Apr 28, 2020 9:41:41 GMT 10
While many people in this country accepts and indeed favours the government's approach to tackling coronavirus through a lockdown, Peter Hitchens is a lonely dissenting voice, arguing that the UK approach is disproportionate to the threat it presents. While the state's advice is to stay at home and socially distance from others, Hitchens says he's concerned about the economic consequence of this will be worse than the damage caused by the virus itself. (Peter Hitchens is a columnist for The Daily Mail) I don't see how the lockdown is disproportionate to the problem? We've lost 20,000 lives in four weeks - what might the toll have been without lockdown? On the other hand, after 4 weeks of lockdown the UK had another 800 deaths and it seems to be an average daily rate. More and more people are beginning to ignore the advice to stay at home now and perhaps the warm weather and the ensuing summer will be a game-changer: people just aren't going to stay indoors. I do think that we should gradually ease people back into work where social distancing is possible and maybe the first thing for Boris to do at his desk tomorrow morning is to ditch HS2. What is the point of continuing with it - surely saving lives and protecting front line health workers is more important than making a journey from London to Nottingham twelve minutes faster. Bo-Jo is raring to go apparently and will have some decision making to do in the face of opposition to the lockdown continuing. He has been very Conservative in not giving the police absolute power of enforcement and in my opinion there are just too many caveats and grey areas. No wonder then as people can see they have a choice, many choose to go about their daily lives, some wearing PPE and some not. Also, if the lockdown was lifted, the job market would not be as competitive making it less challenging for those trying to get a job.
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Post by karlpalaka on Apr 28, 2020 9:44:43 GMT 10
The US just hit a million cases (Worldometer) Yes, we are going through what China went through last winter. Also, 42% of all the active worldwide cases come from the United States, which is really sad, and a third of the total cases come from the United States too. First China suffered as it originated with them, then Italy in terms of deaths, then Spain as well in terms of deaths, and now the US in terms of everything related to the coronavirus. They have the most amount of total cases, active cases, and deaths.
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Post by rainbow on Apr 28, 2020 10:32:44 GMT 10
Just keeping in mind that when you say "The United States has the most coronavirus cases", you're basically trusting the numbers coming from China and their authoritarian government. And we know China is lying. The United States isn't 100% correct either, but China is obviously trying to hide their numbers and it couldn't be anymore obvious. That's what they did at the beginning, which is why this all turned into a worldwide pandemic.
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Post by karlpalaka on Apr 28, 2020 11:19:40 GMT 10
Just keeping in mind that when you say "The United States has the most coronavirus cases", you're basically trusting the numbers coming from China and their authoritarian government. And we know China is lying. The United States isn't 100% correct either, but China is obviously trying to hide their numbers and it couldn't be anymore obvious. That's what they did at the beginning, which is why this all turned into a worldwide pandemic. Again, that is just a theory that China is hiding their numbers. It has not been proven true yet. Besides, if they were really hiding their numbers, why would they keep incrementing their new cases and deaths daily? As of now, the US has over a million cases in total, and over 800,000 active cases. That is definitely more than what China has at this point even if they were actually hiding their numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 13:14:39 GMT 10
Just keeping in mind that when you say "The United States has the most coronavirus cases", you're basically trusting the numbers coming from China and their authoritarian government. And we know China is lying. The United States isn't 100% correct either, but China is obviously trying to hide their numbers and it couldn't be anymore obvious. That's what they did at the beginning, which is why this all turned into a worldwide pandemic. Don't sit on the fence. Just say you hate China and the Chinese.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 13:32:09 GMT 10
Just keeping in mind that when you say "The United States has the most coronavirus cases", you're basically trusting the numbers coming from China and their authoritarian government. And we know China is lying. The United States isn't 100% correct either, but China is obviously trying to hide their numbers and it couldn't be anymore obvious. That's what they did at the beginning, which is why this all turned into a worldwide pandemic. You really don't know how Chinese culture works. It's very cautious by nature (you might say authoritarian). It doesn't take the virus threat lightly. At local levels, measures are in place to minimize the risk. Temperature taking, mask wearing, controlled-access, social distancing, crowd avoidance, designated hospitals/quarantine hotels, specific business closures etc are evident. In cities and provinces, news travels fast. People know where there are new cases. Across China today, the number of new cases are almost zero. It's not a secret. Everybody knows. If it weren't the true number, then everybody would be back in 24-hour lockdown pretty quick.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 15:54:42 GMT 10
Maybe China's numbers aren't 100% accurate but there's no reason to believe they don't have this disease contained. The math wouldn't add up otherwise. If there were millions of people walking around sick the disease would quickly infects hundreds of millions more (because that's how fast this disease spreads) and there would be mass destruction everywhere, and there's nothing to suggest that that's happening. I don't trust the Chinese government but I do trust math and the science behind epidemiology.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 28, 2020 18:50:08 GMT 10
Tuesday, 28th April 2020:
* The number of confirmed cases worldwide has surpassed 3 million. 211,221 people have died from the virus.
* Over in the States, there are now 1,010,277 confirmed cases of the coronavirus. 56,634 Americans have passed away.
* Italy is close to surpassing 200,000 confirmed cases, currently siting at 199,414 as of the 28th April.
* Australia has reported just 8 new confirmed cases of the virus today. It's total count is now at 6,728.
* New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern says that "75% of the economy will be back up running again" under level 3 restrictions.
* President of the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, Yoshiro Mori, says that the Olympic Games would be "scrapped" altogether if it unable to take place next year.
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Post by broadstreet223 on Apr 29, 2020 14:28:45 GMT 10
The world will probably end before this pandemic is over
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 29, 2020 23:28:51 GMT 10
Please tell us you're going to do this Telso. 
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 30, 2020 21:21:08 GMT 10
Awful statistic coming out of the US. I wouldn't be surprised if the number of deaths from COVID-19 eventually surpasses the total number of Americans killed during World War II. Fingers crossed that doesn't happen, but it's hard to be optimistic.
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Post by SharksFan99 on May 4, 2020 15:39:44 GMT 10
Must be our attempt to try and claim Jacinda Ardern as our own.
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