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Post by mc98 on Jan 30, 2020 12:27:36 GMT 10
It amazes me how both these decades are 20 years apart. The 1960s felt like a different world compared to the 80s. Television in the 60s was mostly black and white while TV in the 80s was mostly color. The audio quality from the 60s sounds fuzzy and muffled, almost similar to the 1940s while the 80s audio quality still sounds like it can come from today. No one had a computer in the 60s, only scientists; the 80s was when everyone had an opportunity to get a computer. The fashion was very vintage in the 60s while 80s fashion was modern but dated in today’s standards.
Comparing the 1990s and 2010s, there isn’t a drastic difference, while the 90s are dated, it still felt like a modern world. Is anyone impressed by how much change there was between these two decades?
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 31, 2020 9:47:40 GMT 10
Yes. I've always held the belief that the 1980s were a "proto-2010s". Of course, you could find similarities between any pair of decades if you look hard enough, but there's just something about the '80s in particular which I see as not only being very much like the present day, but also highly relatable as well. It's as if they were the first "post-modern" decade. A lot of the issues people were dealing with back then we still face today.
That's why it's so hard to imagine that the '80s were only two decades after the 1960s, a decade fueled by turbulence, progressivism and the overall desire to break down the archaic social values of the past. I mean, how can 1981 only be 15 years apart from 1966, they're worlds apart.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 9:55:51 GMT 10
It amazes me how both these decades are 20 years apart. The 1960s felt like a different world compared to the 80s. Television in the 60s was mostly black and white while TV in the 80s was mostly color. The audio quality from the 60s sounds fuzzy and muffled, almost similar to the 1940s while the 80s audio quality still sounds like it can come from today. No one had a computer in the 60s, only scientists; the 80s was when everyone had an opportunity to get a computer. The fashion was very vintage in the 60s while 80s fashion was modern but dated in today’s standards. Comparing the 1990s and 2010s, there isn’t a drastic difference, while the 90s are dated, it still felt like a modern world. Is anyone impressed by how much change there was between these two decades? I think the difference between the 1960s and 1980s is astronomical, but you picked some strange examples. Was all that 1960s technology expected to stay inaccessible and unwieldy? Colour television seems like a logical follow up to black and white television. Miniaturisation of tech has been happening non-stop too; just look at the 1990s and its bulky and heavy computers to the computers we carry in our pockets today. The 1960s were a social revolution, that is why the difference between the decades seem so big. The introduction of the pill and the resulting sexual revolution turned society up on its head. Along with that came the new wave of feminism and the civil rights movement as well. That dated the 1960s very quickly. I feel the 2010s are similarly socially transformational as well, it will only take time to realize it.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Jan 31, 2020 14:22:37 GMT 10
I strongly agree, the 1960s seem so dramatically different from the 1980s. For example, I think the 1980s share so much more in common with the 2000s (even the 2010s) than they do with the 1960s and the early 1970s. Meanwhile, the 1960s (despite all the social changes) still share a lot more in common with 1940s than the 1980s.
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Post by Telso on Feb 13, 2020 22:33:26 GMT 10
Audio quality was mostly good in the 1960s though? The technology was a bit rough on some edges due to the analog techniques and plenty of releases would see remasters in later decades to clean up background noises for digital distribution. But the quality was for the most part consistently good which made it possible for a few key revolutions like the Phil Spector's wall of sound and psychedelic "fuzz" to take place. I never heard a scratchy or muffled recording from the 1960s unless the equipment was particularly damaged beforehand. Absolutely not comparable to the 1940s since that predates the 1950s high fidelity revolution. In fact, music was so "hi-fi" that it would lead to the underground lo-fi backlash of the late 1970s.
Otherwise I don't particularly agree for fashion. 1960s fashion was definitely closer to the 1980s than anything before (unless we talk about the very early 1960s). 1980s fashion even had plenty of 1960s influences, like the UK mod revival and the mini skirt being back in style.
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Post by mc98 on Feb 13, 2020 22:47:44 GMT 10
Audio quality was mostly good in the 1960s though? The technology was a bit rough on some edges due to the analog techniques and plenty of releases would see remasters in later decades to clean up background noises for digital distribution. But the quality was for the most part consistently good which made it possible for a few key revolutions like the Phil Spector's wall of sound and psychedelic "fuzz" to take place. I never heard a scratchy or muffled recording from the 1960s unless the equipment was particularly damaged beforehand. Absolutely not comparable to the 1940s since that predates the 1950s high fidelity revolution. In fact, music was so "hi-fi" that it would lead to the underground lo-fi backlash of the late 1970s. Otherwise I don't particularly agree for fashion. 1960s fashion was definitely closer to the 1980s than anything before (unless we talk about the very early 1960s). 1980s fashion even had plenty of 1960s influences, like the UK mod revival and the mini skirt being back in style. I’m talking about the movies and television.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 2:30:50 GMT 10
Music was better in the 1960s. No boring dance and new romantic crap.
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Post by mc98 on Feb 14, 2020 16:46:49 GMT 10
I'm more impressed with the 20 year gap between the 1950s and 1970s.
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Post by karlpalaka on Feb 14, 2020 16:57:37 GMT 10
What is more impressive is that December 31, 1999 and January 1, 2020 are four decades apart, but they are only twenty years apart really.
A child during December 31, 1999: What is an iPhone?
A child during January 1, 2020: What is a flip phone?
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Post by jaydawg89 on Feb 15, 2020 22:44:28 GMT 10
Audio quality was mostly good in the 1960s though? The technology was a bit rough on some edges due to the analog techniques and plenty of releases would see remasters in later decades to clean up background noises for digital distribution. But the quality was for the most part consistently good which made it possible for a few key revolutions like the Phil Spector's wall of sound and psychedelic "fuzz" to take place. I never heard a scratchy or muffled recording from the 1960s unless the equipment was particularly damaged beforehand. Absolutely not comparable to the 1940s since that predates the 1950s high fidelity revolution. In fact, music was so "hi-fi" that it would lead to the underground lo-fi backlash of the late 1970s. Otherwise I don't particularly agree for fashion. 1960s fashion was definitely closer to the 1980s than anything before (unless we talk about the very early 1960s). 1980s fashion even had plenty of 1960s influences, like the UK mod revival and the mini skirt being back in style. Audio quality was already pretty good in the 1950s. 1960s fashion shares nothing in common with 1980s fashion, the only decade 1960s fashion shares anything in common with is the 1970s (with the early 60s being identical to the 1940s and 1950s). You couldn't wear anything you wore in the 60s in the 1980s, it would be ridiculous.
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Post by Telso on Feb 16, 2020 7:24:31 GMT 10
You couldn't wear anything you wore in the 60s in the 1980s, it would be ridiculous. My point was that 1960s fashion on the whole being closer to the 1980s, not necessarily that you could pass in one era with clothes from the other (because indeed some styles go and out of fashion). The difference between the 60s-80s doesn't compare to the 40s-60s difference. And your assertion is fairly false anyway. They were definite 60s influences into the 80s, right to down to both decades having a taste for bright colors and geometric shapes. The alt scene of the 80s was also fairly notorious of pulling direct influences from the 60s. And like I said the mod style was still going on fairly strong, particularly in the UK. Here are some pictures from the 80s of people donning the mod style: And the 60s in general were deffo just a nostalgic era for 80s people (well for those who grew up in them at least):
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Post by sman12 on Feb 17, 2020 9:58:22 GMT 10
Well, the 1960s had hippies, youth/young adult counter-culture, black and white to color TV transition, the Vietnam War, and psychedelic rock while the 1980s had hair metal, VCRs, the Cold War progression with the Berlin Wall and Gorbachev, synthpop, and MTV.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 2:17:21 GMT 10
Audio quality was mostly good in the 1960s though? The technology was a bit rough on some edges due to the analog techniques and plenty of releases would see remasters in later decades to clean up background noises for digital distribution. But the quality was for the most part consistently good which made it possible for a few key revolutions like the Phil Spector's wall of sound and psychedelic "fuzz" to take place. I never heard a scratchy or muffled recording from the 1960s unless the equipment was particularly damaged beforehand. Absolutely not comparable to the 1940s since that predates the 1950s high fidelity revolution. In fact, music was so "hi-fi" that it would lead to the underground lo-fi backlash of the late 1970s. Otherwise I don't particularly agree for fashion. 1960s fashion was definitely closer to the 1980s than anything before (unless we talk about the very early 1960s). 1980s fashion even had plenty of 1960s influences, like the UK mod revival and the mini skirt being back in style. Audio quality was already pretty good in the 1950s. 1960s fashion shares nothing in common with 1980s fashion, the only decade 1960s fashion shares anything in common with is the 1970s (with the early 60s being identical to the 1940s and 1950s). You couldn't wear anything you wore in the 60s in the 1980s, it would be ridiculous. As a music collector, I have to say there was a huge increase in audio quality in the late 1940s, especially as old shellac 78RPM records began to be replaced by vinyl. The previous big jump was in the mid 1920s when electric recording replaced acoustic recording.
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Post by #Infinity on Feb 18, 2020 3:30:50 GMT 10
I used to be blown away by the gap between the '60s and '80s, but honestly there are some links between the two periods. For one, the '80s were a great time for '60s nostalgia acts, as artists such as Dionne Warwick, the Rolling Stones, Aretha Franklin, Smokey Robinson, the members of Jefferson Airplane, Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross, the former Beatles, and many, many other '60s pop veterans were still at the forefront of the music industry in the '80s.
Additionally, the primary music-listening format in the '80s was still vinyl. Although it began to decline during the later '80s with the rise of CDs, it remained prevalent the entire decade.
Technologically, the '80s may have seen the rise of home computers, microwaves, home video, video games, the Walkman, etc., but most people still didn't actually own a computer and relied on the typewriter, while cell phones and the Internet were not popularized yet at all. Life in the '80s was pretty similar to the '60s, save for a few more gadgets, and wasn't the mass-connected world that the equidistant 2000s were.
Also, recording quality in the '80s wasn't completely crystal clear. This is especially prevalent during the early and mid-'80s. For example, listen to the vocal track on this song:
There's a vague muddle that definitely distinguishes it from present-day recordings.
Until the late '80s, most movies still had pretty primitive-sounding audio, not so different at all from films in the '60s. Just listen to the audio in The Breakfast Club:
Compare this to Clueless, which came out only 10 years later:
As for other matters, the '80s was still the era of the Cold War, the LGBT community had nowhere near the level of acceptance they'd attain in the 2000s (although this was at least the post-Stonewall era), CGI animation was represented by the "Money for Nothing" music video, and fashion was much more uniform and defined than the generally wear-what-you-want feel of the 2000s.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Feb 18, 2020 10:43:33 GMT 10
I used to be blown away by the gap between the '60s and '80s, but honestly there are some links between the two periods. For one, the '80s were a great time for '60s nostalgia acts, as artists such as Dionne Warwick, the Rolling Stones, Aretha Franklin, Smokey Robinson, the members of Jefferson Airplane, Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross, the former Beatles, and many, many other '60s pop veterans were still at the forefront of the music industry in the '80s. Additionally, the primary music-listening format in the '80s was still vinyl. Although it began to decline during the later '80s with the rise of CDs, it remained prevalent the entire decade. Technologically, the '80s may have seen the rise of home computers, microwaves, home video, video games, the Walkman, etc., but most people still didn't actually own a computer and relied on the typewriter, while cell phones and the Internet were not popularized yet at all. Life in the '80s was pretty similar to the '60s, save for a few more gadgets, and wasn't the mass-connected world that the equidistant 2000s were. Also, recording quality in the '80s wasn't completely crystal clear. This is especially prevalent during the early and mid-'80s. For example, listen to the vocal track on this song: There's a vague muddle that definitely distinguishes it from present-day recordings. Until the late '80s, most movies still had pretty primitive-sounding audio, not so different at all from films in the '60s. Just listen to the audio in The Breakfast Club: Compare this to Clueless, which came out only 10 years later: As for other matters, the '80s was still the era of the Cold War, the LGBT community had nowhere near the level of acceptance they'd attain in the 2000s (although this was at least the post-Stonewall era), CGI animation was represented by the "Money for Nothing" music video, and fashion was much more uniform and defined than the generally wear-what-you-want feel of the 2000s. A lot of good points, I especially agree with you on technology. A lot of what you mentioned such as microwaves, Home Video and walkmans were not actually that widely adopted until about 1987ish. You are definitely right on home computers, my parents still used a typewriter until 1990. I also strongly agree with audio quality in movies, I always noticed it as a kid watching movies from before I was born, CGI also wasn't common till the 90s. I do however, sort of disagree with your points on vinyl, it was still popular until the late 80s but, around 1983 Audio Cassettes had already overtaken Vinyl.
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