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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 20, 2020 18:13:58 GMT 10
I try to stay in touch with what is currently going on in the music world. Being the music nerd that I am, I've got a habit of checking the ARIA and Billboard Hot-100 charts just hours after they are published each week and I also listen to my local radio stations on the way to work. However, I am at a loss when it comes to actually describing what genres of music are "in" at the moment. I was thinking about this earlier, but if I were to actually try and describe to someone what is popular at the moment, i'm not sure what I would really tell them. There doesn't seem to be one particular style of music which is defining the Top-40 music scene at present. The charts seem to be a mish-mash of a number of different styles and influences. Critics and music fans have been saying that "alt-pop" appears to now be in vogue what with Billie Eilish having become one of the biggest names in music. I don't really see it though. I mean, I understand that the overall zeitgeist has become much more downbeat and minimalist over the past couple of years or so; there's a noticeable difference when you compare the music of 2018-now with the flashy, EDM, Mid 2010s. However, the overall aesthetic and sound of this supposedly "minimalist", alt-pop sound is poorly defined. Lewis Capaldi's "Before You Go" and Post Malone's "Circles" can be said to be quite 'minimalist' in their sound, but you'd be laughed at for grouping either of those songs with Billie Eilish's music. I'm not even sure what genres of music they would be identified as. Indie-pop? Don't think so. Pop-rock? Maybe you could make a case for "Before You Go" being pop-rock, however "Circles" is anything but. I also don't know what term could be used to define the electronic-pop songs which are currently popular, such as "Don't Start Now", "Dance Monkey" and "Lose Control". I think they are distinctively different from the EDM songs that were charting from about 2013-2018. You can describe the songs individually, of course, but they don't seem to fit under one particular style of music. So i'm just interested to hear everyone else's opinions on this; what genres would you say are popular in the mainstream right now? Surely i'm not starting to lose touch with music already, i'm only turning 21 in a few weeks! 
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Post by mc98 on Feb 21, 2020 1:03:23 GMT 10
I try to stay in touch with what is currently going on in the music world. Being the music nerd that I am, I've got a habit of checking the ARIA and Billboard Hot-100 charts just hours after they are published each week and I also listen to my local radio stations on the way to work. However, I am at a loss when it comes to actually describing what genres of music are "in" at the moment. I was thinking about this earlier, but if I were to actually try and describe to someone what is popular at the moment, i'm not sure what I would really tell them. There doesn't seem to be one particular style of music which is defining the Top-40 music scene at present. The charts seem to be a mish-mash of a number of different styles and influences. Critics and music fans have been saying that "alt-pop" appears to now be in vogue what with Billie Eilish having become one of the biggest names in music. I don't really see it though. I mean, I understand that the overall zeitgeist has become much more downbeat and minimalist over the past couple of years or so; there's a noticeable difference when you compare the music of 2018-now with the flashy, EDM, Mid 2010s. However, the overall aesthetic and sound of this supposedly "minimalist", alt-pop sound is poorly defined. Lewis Capaldi's "Before You Go" and Post Malone's "Circles" can be said to be quite 'minimalist' in their sound, but you'd be laughed at for grouping either of those songs with Billie Eilish's music. I'm not even sure what genres of music they would be identified as. Indie-pop? Don't think so. Pop-rock? Maybe you could make a case for "Before You Go" being pop-rock, however "Circles" is anything but. I also don't know what term could be used to define the electronic-pop songs which are currently popular, such as "Don't Start Now", "Dance Monkey" and "Lose Control". I think they are distinctively different from the EDM songs that were charting from about 2013-2018. You can describe the songs individually, of course, but they don't seem to fit under one particular style of music. So i'm just interested to hear everyone else's opinions on this; what genres would you say are popular in the mainstream right now? Surely i'm not starting to lose touch with music already, i'm only turning 21 in a few weeks! You’re current #1 in your country is Blinding Lights by The Weeknd which is an obvious throwback to the 1980s. Another hit that is massive in both AUS and US is The Box by Roddy Ricch, which is a Trap song. His style is similar to Young Thug but he is enunciates better and has unique flows. Adore You can be considered in the same category as Circles.
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Post by sman12 on Feb 21, 2020 7:05:42 GMT 10
Trap (Roddy Ricch, Drake, Future), alt-pop (Billie Eilish, Shaed), pop rock (Harry Styles, Post Malone), and synthpop inspired by the 80s (Dua Lipa, The Weeknd).
So far, the music scene is just a variety of genres, which I really like.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 21, 2020 10:00:13 GMT 10
You’re current #1 in your country is Blinding Lights by The Weeknd which is an obvious throwback to the 1980s. Another hit that is massive in both AUS and US is The Box by Roddy Ricch, which is a Trap song. His style is similar to Young Thug but he is enunciates better and has unique flows. Adore You can be considered in the same category as Circles. I'm not sure about "Adore You" being in the same category as "Circles", tbh. It does have elements of pop-rock in it, however I would be more inclined to say that "Adore You" is a soul-pop inspired track. Hard to say really. Trap (Roddy Ricch, Drake, Future), alt-pop (Billie Eilish, Shaed), pop rock (Harry Styles, Post Malone), and synthpop inspired by the 80s (Dua Lipa, The Weeknd). So far, the music scene is just a variety of genres, which I really like. Thanks for that.  It's kind of ironic in a way that there are actually a few pop-rock songs ("Circles", "What a Man Gotta Do") on the charts, despite people claiming that rock as a genre is dead. You're definitely right about how the music scene is more diverse at the moment. Two years ago, it seemed as though EDM and Trap were the only two genres on the charts; now there's at least 4-5 different genres represented within the Top-40. Hopefully music continues to diversify as the 2020s establishes itself.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Feb 21, 2020 10:13:51 GMT 10
Mostly Hip Hop (trap) and a few sythpop songs. Really, just 2019 again. Hopefully 2020 isn't so oversaturated with Hip Hop like 2019.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 21, 2020 10:20:42 GMT 10
Mostly Hip Hop (trap) and a few sythpop songs. Really, just 2019 again. Hopefully 2020 isn't so oversaturated with Hip Hop like 2019. It's funny you say that, because I actually think 2019 was a more diverse year for music than what 2018 was. Trap flooded the charts in 2018 and it seems to have been the year that it was in it's peak. I get the impression that it has gradually started to decline in popularity over the past 6-12 months, but that being said, i'm not in high school. I don't know how popular it still is with teens.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Feb 21, 2020 10:33:23 GMT 10
Mostly Hip Hop (trap) and a few sythpop songs. Really, just 2019 again. Hopefully 2020 isn't so oversaturated with Hip Hop like 2019. It's funny you say that, because I actually think 2019 was a more diverse year for music than what 2018 was. Trap flooded the charts in 2018 and it seems to have been the year that it was in it's peak. I get the impression that it has gradually started to decline in popularity over the past 6-12 months, but that being said, i'm not in high school. I don't know how popular it still is with teens. Well, you're probably right, I'm not the most up to date with the top 40 these days (I really just took a quick look at the billboard Hot 100 before posting), I really feel like everything has been relatively similar since 2017 (some minor differences though).
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Post by sman12 on Feb 21, 2020 13:51:08 GMT 10
Mostly Hip Hop (trap) and a few sythpop songs. Really, just 2019 again. Hopefully 2020 isn't so oversaturated with Hip Hop like 2019. It's funny you say that, because I actually think 2019 was a more diverse year for music than what 2018 was. Trap flooded the charts in 2018 and it seems to have been the year that it was in it's peak. I get the impression that it has gradually started to decline in popularity over the past 6-12 months, but that being said, i'm not in high school. I don't know how popular it still is with teens. Well, I graduated high school back in 2019, and trap music was still the genre that most of my friends listened to.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 22:07:49 GMT 10
I haven't really cared about the Top 40s for like two years. Maybe if there ends up being a real artistic breakthrough I'll peek out of my hole again.
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Post by sman12 on Feb 23, 2020 5:18:49 GMT 10
I haven't really cared about the Top 40s for like two years. Maybe if there ends up being a real artistic breakthrough I'll peek out of my hole again. Yeah, the sounds that are out right now still feel very late 2010s to me. I haven't seen anything that's groundbreaking on the charts yet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 22:41:49 GMT 10
I haven't really cared about the Top 40s for like two years. Maybe if there ends up being a real artistic breakthrough I'll peek out of my hole again. Yeah, the sounds that are out right now still feel very late 2010s to me. I haven't seen anything that's groundbreaking on the charts yet. Well, more like I’ve increasingly come to the realization that in our current postmodern society, creativity is dead. Everything since the ‘80s or so has just been popular culture to the exclusion of both high and low art, endless repeating and repackaging - or at best, remixing - the same old forms ad nauseam. I mean, think about this for a second: both R&B and punk rock have been stuck on the same loop for nearly FORTY YEARS. You could take a snippet from skater culture of the late ‘80s and it would come back looking identical to a similar scene from over twenty years later. All of our current films are reboots, prequels, and rehashes. I mean for God’s sake, Pokémon is on its TWENTY-THIRD season and the eighth generation of games with no signs of slowing down or even the intention of doing anything new except adding a bunch more Pokémon. Nothing has *really* changed beyond slight cosmetic updates for as long as I’ve been alive. And worst of all, for the most part, none of it means anything - it’s nearly all just diversion. Sorry, rant over.
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Post by sman12 on Mar 3, 2020 3:17:18 GMT 10
Yeah, the sounds that are out right now still feel very late 2010s to me. I haven't seen anything that's groundbreaking on the charts yet. Well, more like I’ve increasingly come to the realization that in our current postmodern society, creativity is dead. Everything since the ‘80s or so has just been popular culture to the exclusion of both high and low art, endless repeating and repackaging - or at best, remixing - the same old forms ad nauseam. I mean, think about this for a second: both R&B and punk rock have been stuck on the same loop for nearly FORTY YEARS. You could take a snippet from skater culture of the late ‘80s and it would come back looking identical to a similar scene from over twenty years later. All of our current films are reboots, prequels, and rehashes. I mean for God’s sake, Pokémon is on its TWENTY-THIRD season and the eighth generation of games with no signs of slowing down or even the intention of doing anything new except adding a bunch more Pokémon. Nothing has *really* changed beyond slight cosmetic updates for as long as I’ve been alive. And worst of all, for the most part, none of it means anything - it’s nearly all just diversion. Sorry, rant over. It's cool, man, because you're definitely making a lot sense. Most things in pop culture aren't inventive, groundbreaking or original anymore. Companies like Disney make reboots such as Mulan or The Lion King because of brand recognition and familiarity. They sell more because of those factors. That's the way the entertainment industry works nowadays, and it's pretty sad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 3:38:26 GMT 10
I lost interest in current music 30 years ago. It's all the same genre to me - boring crap!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 12:58:18 GMT 10
Well, more like I’ve increasingly come to the realization that in our current postmodern society, creativity is dead. Everything since the ‘80s or so has just been popular culture to the exclusion of both high and low art, endless repeating and repackaging - or at best, remixing - the same old forms ad nauseam. I mean, think about this for a second: both R&B and punk rock have been stuck on the same loop for nearly FORTY YEARS. You could take a snippet from skater culture of the late ‘80s and it would come back looking identical to a similar scene from over twenty years later. All of our current films are reboots, prequels, and rehashes. I mean for God’s sake, Pokémon is on its TWENTY-THIRD season and the eighth generation of games with no signs of slowing down or even the intention of doing anything new except adding a bunch more Pokémon. Nothing has *really* changed beyond slight cosmetic updates for as long as I’ve been alive. And worst of all, for the most part, none of it means anything - it’s nearly all just diversion. Sorry, rant over. It's cool, man, because you're definitely making a lot sense. Most things in pop culture aren't inventive, groundbreaking or original anymore. Companies like Disney make reboots such as Mulan or The Lion King because of brand recognition and familiarity. They sell more because of those factors. That's the way the entertainment industry works nowadays, and it's pretty sad. I don't even think it's a matter of pop culture not being inventive "anymore." The way I see it, works are showcased at us and people consume it and like it because it's what is available. But how many times have you actually stopped to think: is this good? Is this actually art?
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Post by sman12 on Mar 6, 2020 8:09:07 GMT 10
It's cool, man, because you're definitely making a lot sense. Most things in pop culture aren't inventive, groundbreaking or original anymore. Companies like Disney make reboots such as Mulan or The Lion King because of brand recognition and familiarity. They sell more because of those factors. That's the way the entertainment industry works nowadays, and it's pretty sad. I don't even think it's a matter of pop culture not being inventive "anymore." The way I see it, works are showcased at us and people consume it and like it because it's what is available. But how many times have you actually stopped to think: is this good? Is this actually art? Well, I didn't really think about it like that, lol. But I believe that there are still people who think about what they've saw in the media, i.e., Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic or any film/TV critic.
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It's kind of ironic in a way that there are actually a few pop-rock songs ("Circles", "What a Man Gotta Do") on the charts, despite people claiming that rock as a genre is dead. You're definitely right about how the music scene is more diverse at the moment. Two years ago, it seemed as though EDM and Trap were the only two genres on the charts; now there's at least 4-5 different genres represented within the Top-40. Hopefully music continues to diversify as the 2020s establishes itself. 