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Post by John Titor on Apr 16, 2020 8:12:38 GMT 10
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Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 16, 2020 9:25:16 GMT 10
Interesting.
Are you considering doing one for the core '90s and the core '00s?
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Post by John Titor on Apr 16, 2020 9:42:29 GMT 10
Interesting. Are you considering doing one for the core '90s and the core '00s? yes, the 00s one eventually, I always forget things to add on these things lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 10:06:22 GMT 10
You forgot 2002 and 2003.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 16, 2020 10:10:14 GMT 10
Wow, may 1st 2001 must have been a day to remember, it was apparently a completely different era to the day before it. Incredible.
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Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 16, 2020 10:19:18 GMT 10
Wow, may 1st 2001 must have been a day to remember, it was apparently a completely different era to the day before it. Incredible. To be fair though, captions given in the 2001 segment do give a respectable analysis of why the Y2K Era ended around then.
I wasn't old enough then to make a foul-proof analysis, but when I look back on certain types of media which were popular in 2001, in comparison to types of media which were popular in 1999 and 2000, I could sense that the pop-cultural vibe and aesthetic in 2001 was already changing, and by late 2001, after 9/11, it became even more apparent.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 16, 2020 10:28:53 GMT 10
Wow, may 1st 2001 must have been a day to remember, it was apparently a completely different era to the day before it. Incredible. To be fair though, captions given in the 2001 segment do give a respectable analysis of why the Y2K Era ended around then.
I wasn't old enough then to make a foul-proof analysis, but when I look back on certain types of media which were popular in 2001, in comparison to types of media which were popular in 1999 and 2000, I could sense that the pop-cultural vibe and aesthetic in 2001 was already changing, and by late 2001, after 9/11, it became even more apparent.
You could feel it in the middle of the year, Sega was gone, WWF ( a thing that boomed when the y2k era started) no longer popular when the Y2k ERA ended (minus Hulk Hogan coming back the next year briefly) Pop punk was gaining more and more and more steam, by the time Sum 41 came out it seems more pop punk heads were coming out of the wood work. No matter what had 9/11 not happened this change was coming and you could see it a mile away. The Neptunes were already working with Brtiney Spears in early 2001 so she was going to have that more advanced dirty sound no matter what. Xbox and Gamecube were already in the pipeline ready to be shipped off in a few months. This and the Economy crashing mid year which I have touched upon a few times, That summer is prob the slowest summer in the history of the 2000s due to the slow economic growth. 9/11 was the kick in the ass to speed up to change culture, was going to happen regardless
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Post by karlpalaka on Apr 16, 2020 12:25:54 GMT 10
2002 and 2003 would also fall in the Y2K era.
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Post by Captain Nemo on Apr 16, 2020 12:35:13 GMT 10
2002 and 2003 would also fall in the Y2K era. Eh, not really. They were early '00s certainly, but not Y2K.
The vibe in those years was more edgy/mature and less poppy/innocent, both in regards to the music as well as the fashion of those years, and the 6th gaming generation was already in full swing, which included the GTA-craze.
Plus, the aftermath of 9/11 changed the socio-political landscape as well.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 16, 2020 13:57:32 GMT 10
2002 and 2003 would also fall in the Y2K era. Eh, not really. They were early '00s certainly, but not Y2K.
The vibe in those years was more edgy/mature and less poppy/innocent, both in regards to the music as well as the fashion of those years, and the 6th gaming generation was already in full swing, which included the GTA-craze.
Plus, the aftermath of 9/11 changed the socio-political landscape as well.
Yeah 2002 and 2003 are not y2k at all by a long shot, if you look at pictures maybe some fashion is still transitioning over but atmosphere wise and music wise it was a different universe. - XBOX and Gamecube kicked off the full race of new systems along with PS2 churning out GTA III and Vice City - WWF was now entering its ruthless agression draft era (not to mention WWF was now WWE !) - Bling fashion starts coming in along with Juicy Couture - Commercials on TV stop using y2k futuristic type font - The Pokemon fad was over and Yugioh was the new king for now - Teen pop was now Mature pop, with many producers like Timbaland and The Neptunes changing your favorite popstars image/sound - Post 9/11 World - All the previous boy bands like Nsync and Backstreet boys break up or take a hiatus (Backstreet took a HUGE hiatus in 2001) - The WB now becoming detestation television (not talking Kids WB! talking about prime time) A year can't be a part of an era of all of the classic things that make up the era are gone. The things that made up the y2k era were for the most part dead in 2002 or 2003, any movies or music videos with that style were obviously filmed in 2001. By 2003 Wrestling lost all popularity, boy bands were dead, Sega Dreamcast was dead, Futuristic fonts were dead in commercials (some exceptions include Sony Vaio), Teen pop was dead. Pop punk had taken over as well. Singers like Avril Lavigne and bands like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan were eroding the market share of pop groups like 98 degrees or O-Town. With someone like Nick Lachey being relegated to being a reality TV star instead of Singer. (both his solo albums flopped btw)
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Post by jaydawg89 on Apr 16, 2020 18:38:55 GMT 10
Eh, not really. They were early '00s certainly, but not Y2K.
The vibe in those years was more edgy/mature and less poppy/innocent, both in regards to the music as well as the fashion of those years, and the 6th gaming generation was already in full swing, which included the GTA-craze.
Plus, the aftermath of 9/11 changed the socio-political landscape as well.
Yeah 2002 and 2003 are not y2k at all by a long shot, if you look at pictures maybe some fashion is still transitioning over but atmosphere wise and music wise it was a different universe. - XBOX and Gamecube kicked off the full race of new systems along with PS2 churning out GTA III and Vice City - WWF was now entering its ruthless agression draft era (not to mention WWF was now WWE !) - Bling fashion starts coming in along with Juicy Couture - Commercials on TV stop using y2k futuristic type font - The Pokemon fad was over and Yugioh was the new king for now - Teen pop was now Mature pop, with many producers like Timbaland and The Neptunes changing your favorite popstars image/sound - Post 9/11 World - All the previous boy bands like Nsync and Backstreet boys break up or take a hiatus (Backstreet took a HUGE hiatus in 2001) - The WB now becoming detestation television (not talking Kids WB! talking about prime time) A year can't be a part of an era of all of the classic things that make up the era are gone. The things that made up the y2k era were for the most part dead in 2002 or 2003, any movies or music videos with that style were obviously filmed in 2001. By 2003 Wrestling lost all popularity, boy bands were dead, Sega Dreamcast was dead, Futuristic fonts were dead in commercials (some exceptions include Sony Vaio), Teen pop was dead. Pop punk had taken over as well. Singers like Avril Lavigne and bands like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan were eroding the market share of pop groups like 98 degrees or O-Town. With someone like Nick Lachey being relegated to being a reality TV star instead of Singer. (both his solo albums flopped btw) I agree, 2001 really changed things, I never agreed with 2002 and 2003 being in the Y2K era. Even 2001 was kind of falling off the Y2K Era a bit but, barely passes. Anytime after 9/11 will never really fit into the Y2K era in my books.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 17, 2020 3:23:27 GMT 10
Yeah 2002 and 2003 are not y2k at all by a long shot, if you look at pictures maybe some fashion is still transitioning over but atmosphere wise and music wise it was a different universe. - XBOX and Gamecube kicked off the full race of new systems along with PS2 churning out GTA III and Vice City - WWF was now entering its ruthless agression draft era (not to mention WWF was now WWE !) - Bling fashion starts coming in along with Juicy Couture - Commercials on TV stop using y2k futuristic type font - The Pokemon fad was over and Yugioh was the new king for now - Teen pop was now Mature pop, with many producers like Timbaland and The Neptunes changing your favorite popstars image/sound - Post 9/11 World - All the previous boy bands like Nsync and Backstreet boys break up or take a hiatus (Backstreet took a HUGE hiatus in 2001) - The WB now becoming detestation television (not talking Kids WB! talking about prime time) A year can't be a part of an era of all of the classic things that make up the era are gone. The things that made up the y2k era were for the most part dead in 2002 or 2003, any movies or music videos with that style were obviously filmed in 2001. By 2003 Wrestling lost all popularity, boy bands were dead, Sega Dreamcast was dead, Futuristic fonts were dead in commercials (some exceptions include Sony Vaio), Teen pop was dead. Pop punk had taken over as well. Singers like Avril Lavigne and bands like Good Charlotte and Simple Plan were eroding the market share of pop groups like 98 degrees or O-Town. With someone like Nick Lachey being relegated to being a reality TV star instead of Singer. (both his solo albums flopped btw) I agree, 2001 really changed things, I never agreed with 2002 and 2003 being in the Y2K era. Even 2001 was kind of falling off the Y2K Era a bit but, barely passes. Anytime after 9/11 will never really fit into the Y2K era in my books. exactly
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2020 10:54:52 GMT 10
Agree to disagree.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 17, 2020 11:07:48 GMT 10
I agree, 2001 really changed things, I never agreed with 2002 and 2003 being in the Y2K era. Even 2001 was kind of falling off the Y2K Era a bit but, barely passes. Anytime after 9/11 will never really fit into the Y2K era in my books. exactly Me neither all the stuff that makes up the y2k era is dead in 2002 and 2003
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Post by karlpalaka on Apr 17, 2020 12:14:42 GMT 10
2002 and 2003 would also fall in the Y2K era. Eh, not really. They were early '00s certainly, but not Y2K.
The vibe in those years was more edgy/mature and less poppy/innocent, both in regards to the music as well as the fashion of those years, and the 6th gaming generation was already in full swing, which included the GTA-craze.
Plus, the aftermath of 9/11 changed the socio-political landscape as well.
Yes, but 2002 and early 2003 were still like the 90s a little bit. 2000 and 2001 were exactly like the late 90s until 9/11 of course. Pretty much the early 2000s was an extension of the 90s. Mid 2003, it just became very 2000s.
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