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Post by John Titor on Jun 1, 2021 8:22:31 GMT 10
The Oc's final episode aired in Feb 2007 I thought it lasted until 2012. 😮 The Oc ended in 2007, you are thinking of One tree hill
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Post by jaydawg89 on Jun 28, 2021 14:09:45 GMT 10
The change from web 1.0 to web 2.0 is probably the biggest difference between 2003 and 2006. I'm just gonna use the same template I did for the "1994 closer to 1988 or 2000" thread. Politically: - Geo-Politics: 2003 - Socially: Tie - Economy: 2003 Technology: - Shopping & Security: Tie - Transportation: Tie - Home Appliances (such as washing machines & microwaves): Tie - Filming & Photography: 2009 - Audio & Radio: 2009 - Television & Video: 2003 - Video Gaming: Tie - Computers & Internet: 2009 - Telecommunication: Tie Pop Culture: - Movies: Tie - TV Shows: 2009 - Fashion: Tie - Music: 2003 imo I would say pop culturally including the entirety of 2005-2006: Movies : 2009 100% TV shows and cartoons: 2009 100 % Music: 2009 Video games: 2009 Tech design and trends and common items: 2009 Internet: 2009 Fashion: 80 percent 2009, 20 percent 2003 Liberal influence: 65 percent 2003 and 35 percent 2009 Internet culture: 60 percent 2009 and 40 percent 2003 The cut off point that seperates the early and mid that occured at some point between mid-late 2004-early 2005, depending on how you see, made a lot of 2003 culture dated, dead or just hanging. (Late response, I know). I think 2006 actually leans towards 2009 the more I look into it. 2003 was early 2000s and still had a strong connection to say 2000. 2006 felt a bit more modern than 2003, with Web 2.0 (Myspace, Wikipedia, Youtube...), Wi-Fi being more common, online multiplayer being much more established, MP3 Players, most people opposing the Iraq War & Bush, early Hipsters, Skinny Jeans and so on. To add, people tend to forget that 2009 still had a lot of 00s culture/influence.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 14:55:58 GMT 10
imo I would say pop culturally including the entirety of 2005-2006: Movies : 2009 100% TV shows and cartoons: 2009 100 % Music: 2009 Video games: 2009 Tech design and trends and common items: 2009 Internet: 2009 Fashion: 80 percent 2009, 20 percent 2003 Liberal influence: 65 percent 2003 and 35 percent 2009 Internet culture: 60 percent 2009 and 40 percent 2003 The cut off point that seperates the early and mid that occured at some point between mid-late 2004-early 2005, depending on how you see, made a lot of 2003 culture dated, dead or just hanging. (Late response, I know). I think 2006 actually leans towards 2009 the more I look into it. 2003 was early 2000s and still had a strong connection to say 2000. 2006 felt a bit more modern than 2003, with Web 2.0 (Myspace, Wikipedia, Youtube...), Wi-Fi being more common, online multiplayer being much more established, MP3 Players, most people opposing the Iraq War & Bush, early Hipsters, Skinny Jeans and so on. To add, people tend to forget that 2009 still had a lot of 00s culture/influence. I agree. I also change my response. I say that 1999 and 2002 can be alike, so why not 2000 and 2003. I cannot distinguish music, movies, TV, technology, fashion, lifestyle, culture, etc from 2000 and 2003, aside no teen pop in 2003. What is funny is that now I am 23, yet I relate more to 20 than 26 year olds. I turned 23 last month, so I am in my early 20s. I consider winter 2008/2009 to summer 2009 to be a part of the cultural late 2000s.
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Post by pumpkin14 on Jun 28, 2021 17:30:13 GMT 10
Easily more like 2009 the more I think about it. 2006 was HD, digital, and just overall more modern than 2003 the same way that 2009 was. The popular music of 2009 was written/recorded in and around 2006. 2006 is peak 2000s but 2003 seems more early 2000s than core 2000s, and 2009 while it is a late 2000s year through and through, it did have some core 2000s elements that 2003 just didn’t have. As someone who remembers all three of those years, 2006 just seemed more connected to 2009 than 2003 to me
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 19:45:22 GMT 10
Easily more like 2009 the more I think about it. 2006 was HD, digital, and just overall more modern than 2003 the same way that 2009 was. The popular music of 2009 was written/recorded in and around 2006. 2006 is peak 2000s but 2003 seems more early 2000s than core 2000s, and 2009 while it is a late 2000s year through and through, it did have some core 2000s elements that 2003 just didn’t have. As sometime who remembers all three of those years, 2006 just seemed more connected to 2009 than 2003 to me I agree. You are right and make solid points. In June 2003, DVD rentals surpassed VHS rentals, but VHS is somewhat relevant in 2003. Discmans are the way to listen to music in 2003, not iPods yet. Nu metal and skater pop punk are forces on the charts in 2003, but emo starts coming in. Neptunes R&B is popular in 2003, although crunk influences are coming in. 2003 is the first core 2000s year, but is more early 2000s. 2003 is the last full year of late 1990s influences, although they are dying throughout the year. 2003 is conservative. People liked Bush and supported the Iraq War. People are shaken up by 9/11. Unemployment peaks that June. Myspace comes out in late 2003, but is unheard of. 2003 is no way the peak of the 2000s. 2003 and 2004 are pre-YouTube years.2003 to mid 2004 is web 1.0 internet with dialup being the way to access it and pre social media. 2003 to mid 2004 is culturally early 2000s despite being numerically mid 2000s and with mid 2000s elements coming in. In late 2004, broadband outselling dial up and Myspace popularity kicking off social media are the two events that start the transition from web 1.0 to web 2.0 internet. In late 2004, emo blows up, iPods gets popular, the core 2000s are 100% in and the mid 2000s starts. All late 1990s influences are dead. 2006 is web 2.0 internet with broadband being the way to access it. Social media is popular. Numetal is dead. Emo is at their peak, although scene starts popping off that fall. 2006 is mid 2000s culture along with late 2004 and 2005. 2006 screams peak 2000s. VHS is history. Neptunes R&B is gone in favor of Timbaland or electro sounds. 7th generation gaming consoles like PS3 debut that fall. Liberal backlash against Bush begins. People see through the Iraq War bullshit and are not shaken up by 9/11. Economy is strong, although signs of Great Recession become apparent. Hipsters make a dent. YouTube and Facebook starts to catch on. Overall 2003 is more like 2000 and 2006 is more like 2009.
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Post by John Titor on Jun 29, 2021 2:13:52 GMT 10
Easily more like 2009 the more I think about it. 2006 was HD, digital, and just overall more modern than 2003 the same way that 2009 was. The popular music of 2009 was written/recorded in and around 2006. 2006 is peak 2000s but 2003 seems more early 2000s than core 2000s, and 2009 while it is a late 2000s year through and through, it did have some core 2000s elements that 2003 just didn’t have. As sometime who remembers all three of those years, 2006 just seemed more connected to 2009 than 2003 to me I agree. You are right and make solid points. In June 2003, DVD rentals surpassed VHS rentals, but VHS is somewhat relevant in 2003. 5th generation gaming consoles like the PS1 are sort of relevant in 2003, despite 6th generation gaming consoles like the PS2 being king. Discmans are the way to listen to music in 2003, not iPods yet. Nu metal and skater pop punk are forces on the charts in 2003, but emo starts coming in. Neptunes R&B is popular in 2003, although crunk influences are coming in. 2003 is the first core 2000s year, but is more early 2000s. 2003 is the last full year of late 1990s influences, although they are dying throughout the year. 2003 is conservative. People liked Bush and supported the Iraq War. People are shaken up by 9/11. Unemployment peaks that June. Myspace comes out in late 2003, but is unheard of. 2003 is no way the peak of the 2000s. 2003 and 2004 are pre-YouTube years.2003 to mid 2004 is web 1.0 internet with dialup being the way to access it and pre social media. 2003 to mid 2004 is culturally early 2000s despite being numerically mid 2000s and with mid 2000s elements coming in. In late 2004, broadband outselling dial up and Myspace popularity kicking off social media are the two events that start the transition from web 1.0 to web 2.0 internet. In late 2004, emo blows up, iPods gets popular, the core 2000s are 100% in and the mid 2000s starts. All late 1990s influences are dead. 2006 is web 2.0 internet with broadband being the way to access it. Social media is popular. Numetal is dead. Emo is at their peak, although scene starts popping off that fall. 2006 is mid 2000s culture along with late 2004 and 2005. 2006 screams peak 2000s. 5th generation gaming consoles are obsolete. VHS is history. Neptunes R&B is gone in favor of Timbaland or electro sounds. 7th generation gaming consoles like PS3 debut that fall. Liberal backlash against Bush begins. People see through the Iraq War bullshit and are not shaken up by 9/11. Economy is strong, although signs of Great Recession become apparent. Hipsters make a dent. YouTube and Facebook starts to catch on. Overall 2003 is more like 2000 and 2006 is more like 2009. this is not true at all as someone who was there, you couldn't even find ps1 or n64 stock at Best Buy or Eb Games in 2003. Funcoland maybe because they even carried SNES stuff for nostalgia purposes. In 2002 pretty much everyone was on board with 6th generation systems.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Jun 29, 2021 2:42:19 GMT 10
I agree. You are right and make solid points. In June 2003, DVD rentals surpassed VHS rentals, but VHS is somewhat relevant in 2003. 5th generation gaming consoles like the PS1 are sort of relevant in 2003, despite 6th generation gaming consoles like the PS2 being king. Discmans are the way to listen to music in 2003, not iPods yet. Nu metal and skater pop punk are forces on the charts in 2003, but emo starts coming in. Neptunes R&B is popular in 2003, although crunk influences are coming in. 2003 is the first core 2000s year, but is more early 2000s. 2003 is the last full year of late 1990s influences, although they are dying throughout the year. 2003 is conservative. People liked Bush and supported the Iraq War. People are shaken up by 9/11. Unemployment peaks that June. Myspace comes out in late 2003, but is unheard of. 2003 is no way the peak of the 2000s. 2003 and 2004 are pre-YouTube years.2003 to mid 2004 is web 1.0 internet with dialup being the way to access it and pre social media. 2003 to mid 2004 is culturally early 2000s despite being numerically mid 2000s and with mid 2000s elements coming in. In late 2004, broadband outselling dial up and Myspace popularity kicking off social media are the two events that start the transition from web 1.0 to web 2.0 internet. In late 2004, emo blows up, iPods gets popular, the core 2000s are 100% in and the mid 2000s starts. All late 1990s influences are dead. 2006 is web 2.0 internet with broadband being the way to access it. Social media is popular. Numetal is dead. Emo is at their peak, although scene starts popping off that fall. 2006 is mid 2000s culture along with late 2004 and 2005. 2006 screams peak 2000s. 5th generation gaming consoles are obsolete. VHS is history. Neptunes R&B is gone in favor of Timbaland or electro sounds. 7th generation gaming consoles like PS3 debut that fall. Liberal backlash against Bush begins. People see through the Iraq War bullshit and are not shaken up by 9/11. Economy is strong, although signs of Great Recession become apparent. Hipsters make a dent. YouTube and Facebook starts to catch on. Overall 2003 is more like 2000 and 2006 is more like 2009. this is not true at all as someone who was there, you couldn't even find ps1 or n64 stock at Best Buy or Eb Games in 2003. Funcoland maybe because they even carried SNES stuff for nostalgia purposes. In 2002 pretty much everyone was on board with 6th generation systems. True, I don't remember anyone playing PS1 & N64 in 2002. Even in 2001, they were def phasing out.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Jun 29, 2021 3:10:34 GMT 10
Hmm
Music - 2003
TV - 2003
Technology - 2009
so mostly 2003 i guess lol
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Post by astropoug on Jun 5, 2022 18:06:58 GMT 10
No way, 2006 feels way more like 2009. WoW is the king of MMOs, Avatar: The Last Airbender is the hottest kid's TV show, the Wii has just come out, and emo is dominating.TBH neither of these things had any bearing on either 2003 OR 2009. Emo was largely a 2004-2007 trend whilst ATLA aired from 2005-2008. I think music of 2006 is more similar to 2003. Even though emo wasn’t that big in 2003, you did have nu metal filling the role of similarly angsty alt rock. Post-grunge and pop punk were very popular in both 2003 and 2006, but by 2009, not only were these genres dying off, but so was rock AS A WHOLE, in favor of electropop and EDM. I think cartoons and kid culture are closer to 2009. There were way more Flash cartoons in 2006 compared to 2003, and that continued into 2009. Nickelodeon stopped airing Klasky-Csupo cartoons in 2004 barring All Grown Up, and SpongeBob entered the post-movie era in 2005. Disney Channel was seeing HUGE success with Hannah Montana and High School Musical in 2006, which affected their output afterwards. Cartoon Network changed their logo in 2004, and was in their post-Cartoon Cartoon pre-Adventure Time phase. Late 2006 is when Cartoon Network premiered Re-Animated, their first live-action production, which continued of course throughout the late 00s/early 10s.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jun 5, 2022 20:35:33 GMT 10
Politically, more like 2003. Culturally, more like 2009
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Post by John Titor on Jun 6, 2022 1:29:01 GMT 10
Politically, more like 2003. Culturally, more like 2009 eh 2006 felt culturally similar to 2003 with a few minor things like people hating Bush and whatnot. Yes we had Myspace in 2009 as well as 2006 but you know what I mean, the vibe in 2009 felt different.
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Post by astropoug on Jun 6, 2022 1:31:45 GMT 10
Politically, more like 2003. Culturally, more like 2009 eh 2006 felt culturally similar to 2003 with a few minor things like people hating Bush and whatnot. Yes we had Myspace in 2009 as well as 2006 but you know what I mean, the vibe in 2009 felt different. The internet is one aspect that feels more similar to 2009 than 2003. Only exceptions being that platforms like Newgrounds, MSN, and AIM were still big in 06, but were not in 2009.
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Post by John Titor on Jun 6, 2022 2:48:03 GMT 10
eh 2006 felt culturally similar to 2003 with a few minor things like people hating Bush and whatnot. Yes we had Myspace in 2009 as well as 2006 but you know what I mean, the vibe in 2009 felt different. The internet is one aspect that feels more similar to 2009 than 2003. Only exceptions being that platforms like Newgrounds, MSN, and AIM were still big in 06, but were not in 2009. yes, it's one of those neither here or there questions, 2006 has ties to the late 2000s with the music and Ps3/wii/Disney rebranding, Blackberry pearl but also has ties to the main culture of the 2000s with shows like That 70s show,Malcolm, Peak 80s reality shows like Hogan Knows best, Surreal Life, flavor of Love, bling etc. 2006 had 2 parts to the year, very hard to label it as just one thing
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