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Post by mc98 on Dec 14, 2020 17:51:13 GMT 10
I think 2006 is related to both but leaning towards 2003.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 14, 2020 18:04:27 GMT 10
I think 2006 is related to both but leaning towards 2003. I would say mid 2009. Even the mid 00s elements in very late 2003 we’re still not enough and cohesive until mid to late 2004. A few late 00s elements were creeping up in late 05/early 06 but the rest of the year has tons of late 00s overlaps or connections.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 14, 2020 18:36:27 GMT 10
I’d say 2003 as most of 2006 didn’t have electro-pop music like 2009. Hip hop & R&B music were the dominant genres in 2003 & 2006. 2006 had emo music. In 2003, emo was emerging. Bush was president in 2006, like in 2003. Obama was president in 2009. A lot of core 2000s TV shows were going strong in 2006. In 2003, core 2000s TV shows were just taking off. But by 2009, those shows were ending, have ended or lost influence/relevancy. Early-mid 2006 leans towards 2003. Late 2006 leans towards 2009, as that’s when the democrats won the mid term election which lead towards Obama’s victory in 2008. Also late 2006 was when songs like Sexyback by Justin Timberlake were charting which kind of started the electro-pop sound in music. 2003 & 2006 were 6th gen gaming years. Although in late 2006 7th gen gaming consoles such as the PS3 were out. 2009 was a 7th gen gaming year. Late 2006 was also the start of the late 2000s. Early-mid 2006 was the mid 2000s. I can argue that mid 2000s culture began 2 emerge sometime in spring 2003 or mid 2003 with the Iraq War, some 1990s/millennium era shows ending, Cartoon Network going thru minor changes, crunk & emo music emerging, then Myspace coming out. Overall 2006 is more like 2003 culturally. Overall 2003 was still culturally early 2000s nothing really shifted the pop culture as an entire whole in mid or late 2003. All the bits and pieces of that would later be deemed mid 2000s culture were being mixed in with the current early 2000s one forming a unique transitional but early 2000s centered era, from around mid 2003 to early 2004. Imo, Early to mid 2006 has more in common with the latter half 2004, it seems hard to say 2003 even if these were years given. Mid to late 2006 onwards seems more connected to 2009, you could say late 00s cultural era overall.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 19:51:30 GMT 10
I’d say 2003 as most of 2006 didn’t have electro-pop music like 2009. Hip hop & R&B music were the dominant genres in 2003 & 2006. 2006 had emo music. In 2003, emo was emerging. Bush was president in 2006, like in 2003. Obama was president in 2009. A lot of core 2000s TV shows were going strong in 2006. In 2003, core 2000s TV shows were just taking off. But by 2009, those shows were ending, have ended or lost influence/relevancy. Early-mid 2006 leans towards 2003. Late 2006 leans towards 2009, as that’s when the democrats won the mid term election which lead towards Obama’s victory in 2008. Also late 2006 was when songs like Sexyback by Justin Timberlake were charting which kind of started the electro-pop sound in music. 2003 & 2006 were 6th gen gaming years. Although in late 2006 7th gen gaming consoles such as the PS3 were out. 2009 was a 7th gen gaming year. Late 2006 was also the start of the late 2000s. Early-mid 2006 was the mid 2000s. I can argue that mid 2000s culture began 2 emerge sometime in spring 2003 or mid 2003 with the Iraq War, some 1990s/millennium era shows ending, Cartoon Network going thru minor changes, crunk & emo music emerging, then Myspace coming out. Overall 2006 is more like 2003 culturally. Overall 2003 was still culturally early 2000s nothing really shifted the pop culture as an entire whole in mid or late 2003. All the bits and pieces of from incoming 2000s culture were mixed in with early 2000s forming a unique transitional but early 2000s centered era, from around mid 2003 to early 2004. Imo, Early to mid 2006 has more in common with the latter half 2004, it seems hard to say 2003 even if these were years given. Mid to late 2006 onwards seems more connected to 2009, you could say late 00s cultural era overall. You’re right. 2003 was early 2000s overall, but it was also core 2000s like 2006 was. By 2009, the core 2000s were long over as they ended around 2007 2 me. 2003 wasn’t the peak of 2000s culture like 2006 was because the core 2000s began around spring 2003 or mid 2003. 2003 also wasn’t the peak of early 2000s culture like 2002 was. I consider the 1st 1/2 of 2004 2 be early 2000s, but in a transitional state along with most of 2003. The 2nd 1/2 of 2004 was strictly mid 2000s. I agree that the 1st 1/2 or 3/4 of 2006 was similar 2 the 2nd 1/2 of 2004. 2003 was lacking a lot of mid 2000s trends that were in place by the 2nd 1/2 of 2004. 2003 seems 2 have an undeveloped vibe compared 2 2004. Yeah the 2nd 1/2 or the last 1/4 of 2006 was more connected 2 2009. IMO late 2000s culture is fall 2006-winter 2008/2009 or late 2006-early 2009.
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Post by pumpkin14 on Dec 14, 2020 21:20:21 GMT 10
All 3 of these years felt different to me but 2006 seems more connected to 2003 than 2009 to me. Just barely though
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Post by slashpop on Dec 14, 2020 23:16:10 GMT 10
Overall 2003 was still culturally early 2000s nothing really shifted the pop culture as an entire whole in mid or late 2003. All the bits and pieces of from incoming 2000s culture were mixed in with early 2000s forming a unique transitional but early 2000s centered era, from around mid 2003 to early 2004. Imo, Early to mid 2006 has more in common with the latter half 2004, it seems hard to say 2003 even if these were years given. Mid to late 2006 onwards seems more connected to 2009, you could say late 00s cultural era overall. You’re right. 2003 was early 2000s overall, but it was also core 2000s like 2006 was. By 2009, the core 2000s were long over as they ended around 2007 2 me. 2003 wasn’t the peak of 2000s culture like 2006 was because the core 2000s began around spring 2003 or mid 2003. 2003 also wasn’t the peak of early 2000s culture like 2002 was. I consider the 1st 1/2 of 2004 2 be early 2000s, but in a transitional state along with most of 2003. The 2nd 1/2 of 2004 was strictly mid 2000s. I agree that the 1st 1/2 or 3/4 of 2006 was similar 2 the 2nd 1/2 of 2004. 2003 was lacking a lot of mid 2000s trends that were in place by the 2nd 1/2 of 2004. 2003 seems 2 have an undeveloped vibe compared 2 2004. Yeah the 2nd 1/2 or the last 1/4 of 2006 was more connected 2 2009. IMO late 2000s culture is fall 2006-winter 2008/2009 or late 2006-early 2009. To me mid 2006 had some late 00s vibes that were already noticeable than earlier. Even if was still mid 2000s.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Dec 15, 2020 1:25:30 GMT 10
Hip Hop and R&B were the dominant genre in both 2003 and 2006, although it did sound different in 2006 than it did in 2003. Bush was also president in both years and they were both pre-recession. YouTube was created in 2005, but it wasn't very well-known until 2007 or maybe late 2006. So overall, 2006 is more like 2003.
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Post by mc98 on Dec 15, 2020 2:07:17 GMT 10
Hip Hop and R&B were the dominant genre in both 2003 and 2006, although it did sound different in 2006 than it did in 2003. Bush was also president in both years and they were both pre-recession. YouTube was created in 2005, but it wasn't very well-known until 2007 or maybe late 2006. So overall, 2006 is more like 2003. Not to mention 2006 was a pre-iPhone year.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Dec 15, 2020 2:15:15 GMT 10
Hip Hop and R&B were the dominant genre in both 2003 and 2006, although it did sound different in 2006 than it did in 2003. Bush was also president in both years and they were both pre-recession. YouTube was created in 2005, but it wasn't very well-known until 2007 or maybe late 2006. So overall, 2006 is more like 2003. Not to mention 2006 was a pre-iPhone year. Yeah. Although 2003 was an entirely flip phone world whereas Blackberry's and those slider phones started to get big in 2006, and those were still dominant in 2009.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 15, 2020 6:34:21 GMT 10
Hip Hop and R&B were the dominant genre in both 2003 and 2006, although it did sound different in 2006 than it did in 2003. Bush was also president in both years and they were both pre-recession. YouTube was created in 2005, but it wasn't very well-known until 2007 or maybe late 2006. So overall, 2006 is more like 2003. Not to mention 2006 was a pre-iPhone year. I associate iphones with the early 2010s, the tech and product design both in the mid 2000s and late 2000s have a lot of more overlaps compared to the early 2010s and early 2000s. Usbs and other storage devices adopt a product design, use of cameras on the phone becomes more popular, average phone look similar, ipods similar, tvs, laptops etc Stuff from 2002-2003 at a tech store in the mall looks very different compared to what you would typically see a tech store in 2005-2006.
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Post by mc98 on Dec 15, 2020 9:25:27 GMT 10
I think 2006 is related to both but leaning towards 2003. I would say mid 2009. Even the mid 00s elements in very late 2003 we’re still not enough and cohesive until mid to late 2004. A few late 00s elements were creeping up in late 05/early 06 but the rest of the year has tons of late 00s overlaps or connections. I say 2006 leans 2003 because both years share more similarities than 2009. The music, politics, technology, and fashion have a lot in common. 2009 had emerging early 2010s elements.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 15, 2020 9:59:05 GMT 10
I would say mid 2009. Even the mid 00s elements in very late 2003 we’re still not enough and cohesive until mid to late 2004. A few late 00s elements were creeping up in late 05/early 06 but the rest of the year has tons of late 00s overlaps or connections. I say 2006 leans 2003 because both years share more similarities than 2009. The music, politics, technology, and fashion have a lot in common. 2009 had emerging early 2010s elements. First half of 2009 felt connected to most of 2006 the early 10s element weren’t that strong, the core and biggest mid 00s elements stayed stuck throughout all the late 00s until 2009-2010 changed the game. People were wearing 60 to 70 percent of the same clothes and using the same tech from 2006 in 2008-2009. More than half of 2006 had legit late 00s connections 2003 barely had mid 2000s culture if it did it was like an early 2000s cocktail version of it from late spring 2003 to winter 2003/2004. While the literal late 2000s shifts started mostly in late 2006 but were all over the year espefically mid.
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Post by John Titor on Dec 15, 2020 10:20:56 GMT 10
slashpop is right, there were mini shifts happening in all of 2006 such as : - Sam Goody & Suncoast video go out of business - Scene starting to get big around Summer 2006 ( brewing) - That 70s show & Malcolm in The Middle ending - WWE Raw changes theme song and logo - Facebook launches in Fall to everyone without school e-mail - Twitter launches ( would not make a dent until 2008) - Hipster fashions pushed even more by American Apparel - Chappelle's Show ends it's run on Comedy Central - ECW is resurrected by WWE as a new brand on Scifi channel - The WB and Upn network end and form THE CW - Disney channel rebrands to a more kiddie image starting with Hannah Montana and High School Musical - Apple switches to Intel - Get a mac ads start - Terrence and Rocsi, winners from BET's "New Faces" talent search, become the new hosts of 106 & Park - MTV TRL's rating plummet in the fall - Timbaland take over of pop music - launch of Nintendo Wii & Playstation 3 - Launch of Blackberry Pearl smartphone - Windows Vista beta roll out
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 11:19:09 GMT 10
No way, 2006 feels way more like 2009. WoW is the king of MMOs, Avatar: The Last Airbender is the hottest kid's TV show, the Wii has just come out, and emo is dominating.
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Post by John Titor on Dec 15, 2020 12:54:42 GMT 10
Didn't the effects of the early 2000s recession linger in 2003 with high unemployment rates or did the economy recover by then? I remember in 2004 that the economy was good, maybe not as strong as the 1990s-early 2001 economy with a budget surplus, but still healthy compared 2 2001-2002. If the recession aftermath lingered in 2003, then 2003 was early 2000s economically. Politics wise, I'd say 2003 was mid 2000s with the Iraq War & the backlash against it. Fashion, kid culture, technology, gaming, internet & movies in 2003 were early 2000s. DVD's may have surpassed VHS in June 2003, but VHS was pretty common in households (mine included). 2003 was a pre-social media world, even if Myspace came out around August 2003. Myspace didn't blow up until late 2004 with the rise of emo. Music & TV in 2003 were in between early 2000s & mid 2000s. Some shows like The OC got big around fall 2003. 2003 had nu-metal, which was history by 2006. 2006 was dominated by emo. Every teenager I saw @ malls in 2006 was sporting black clothing, black lipstick, black nail polish, skinny black jeans, dark clothing, piercings everywhere etc. Although emo was creeping in 2003 with rock bands transitioning into a darker aesthetic. By fall 2006, I'd say the connections 2 the early 2000s were smashed as a bunch of shows that defined the early-mid 2000s aka classic 2000s ended throughout spring-summer 2006. 2006 also had early signs or warnings of the late 2000s recession with the house bubble bursting early that year. Winter 2005/2006 was mid 2000s. Spring-summer 2006 was a transition from mid 2000s-late 2000s. Most of 2006 was the final gasp of mid 2000s. Late 2000s began by fall 2006. Fall 2008-summer 2009 was a transition from late 2000s-early 2010s. I remember most of 2009 feeling somewhat like fall 2006-summer 2008, but transitional. It seems weird 4 me 2 put a year that had Obama as president with years that had Bush as president. IMO the core 2000s died around spring-summer 2007, but core 2000s holdovers existed through spring-summer 2009. Most of 2009 felt like the last gasp of late 2000s culture. Fall 2009 was when the early 2010s came. The early 2000s recession was pretty much done by 2003, you hardly even felt it tho. The most you felt was maybe Summer 2001 and a few weeks after 9/11. Lots of enron F*ckery and the stock markets being down because of 9/11. I forgot we had a recession then until looking back on it last year. If you speed to fall 2003 the economy pretty much stabilized itself for the time being.
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