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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 17, 2020 22:54:10 GMT 10
With news that poorer countries in Africa, Asia and Latin America may not have access to a vaccine until 2024, there's no telling when the COVID-19 pandemic may come to an end, if it ever does. Both the United States and the United Kingdom are currently rolling out the Pfizer vaccine, however there have been reports of recipients receiving serious reactions and side effects from the dose. There's also no guarantee that the vaccines in development will eradicate the virus completely; they may only decrease the severity of the symptoms. It's a given that the pandemic will continue well into 2021. What will happen after 2021 is anyone's guess. I'm skeptical that the virus will ever truly go away, but in the advent that it does, I think we will return to something resembling a pre-COVID "normality" by about 2023. 2020-2022 will likely be the "COVID years", similarly to how people perceive 1914-1918 and 1939-1945 as the "war" years. What's your take on this?
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Post by y2kbaby on Dec 18, 2020 1:37:29 GMT 10
I think the pandemic will last until by 2022. I hope that it ends by the time the fall of next year though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 1:43:45 GMT 10
I can't speak for other countries but I think it will be over here in Canada by the end of 2021. You don't need everyone to be vaccinated, just enough to reach herd immunity, which should be 75-80% of the population (given that the vaccine is 95% effective). 70% said they would take the vaccines according to polls, add in coercive measures (workplaces mandating vaccination) then we can get to the necessary threshold. Vaccination will be mandatory for anyone entering Canada. I think by the end of 2021 we should be nearly corona free.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 5:03:34 GMT 10
Late 2021 or early 2022 until we can really go back to normal in terms of things like social distancing and masks. It's going to take until the late 2020s/early 2030s for the economy to come back. Then there's the big wildcard of right-wing violence and Christian nationalism this decade.
There's a lot of dangerous territory as a society we are going to have to trudge through before "normal" comes back. The 2010s in the future will likely be looked back on as a simple time.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 18, 2020 17:06:47 GMT 10
I’m going 2 say 2025 because I don’t want 2 get my hopes up thinking COVID will go away by late 2021 & then it doesn’t. I’ll keep a positive mindset that stuff will improve, but I’ll also expect the worst. I mean the world was able 2 transition 2 remote quickly 2 my surprise. Thanks Zoom. Guess what? If we did it before, then we’ll be asked 2 do it again (hopefully not). I can remember people predicting back in March/April that the pandemic would be over by Late 2020 and now here we are two weeks out from the start of the new year; the number of new daily cases in the world is still trending upwards. Of course, no one can really say for sure what will happen, but we need to be careful not to get too optimistic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 23:38:45 GMT 10
I’m going 2 say 2025 because I don’t want 2 get my hopes up thinking COVID will go away by late 2021 & then it doesn’t. I’ll keep a positive mindset that stuff will improve, but I’ll also expect the worst. I mean the world was able 2 transition 2 remote quickly 2 my surprise. Thanks Zoom. Guess what? If we did it before, then we’ll be asked 2 do it again (hopefully not). I can remember people predicting back in March/April that the pandemic would be over by Late 2020 and now here we are two weeks out from the start of the new year; the number of new daily cases in the world is still trending upwards. Of course, no one can really say for sure what will happen, but we need to be careful not to get too optimistic. From the beginning, a friend of mine was saying late 2021-early 2022 before we can start socializing again and 10-15 years before the economy comes back. I didn't want to believe him at the time but now I believe that's the timeline we are on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 1:25:39 GMT 10
I’m going 2 say 2025 because I don’t want 2 get my hopes up thinking COVID will go away by late 2021 & then it doesn’t. I’ll keep a positive mindset that stuff will improve, but I’ll also expect the worst. I mean the world was able 2 transition 2 remote quickly 2 my surprise. Thanks Zoom. Guess what? If we did it before, then we’ll be asked 2 do it again (hopefully not). I can remember people predicting back in March/April that the pandemic would be over by Late 2020 and now here we are two weeks out from the start of the new year; the number of new daily cases in the world is still trending upwards. Of course, no one can really say for sure what will happen, but we need to be careful not to get too optimistic. It should have gone back to normal tbh. Our politicians and populace are mathematically and scientifically illiterate though and that is something I underestimated. I look to more educated countries like Japan, Korea etc. with envy. In Canada we coddle people with "math anxiety" like they need a pacifier. If those countries weren't so homogenous I probably would have moved there a century ago lol.
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Post by sman12 on Dec 22, 2020 10:53:26 GMT 10
I would say 2022 at the latest. Social distancing and mask wearing will probably still be implemented in some countries at that point. But hopefully, most people (at least in developed countries) are immune from the virus.
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Post by ItsMichael on Dec 22, 2020 11:45:54 GMT 10
At the earliest, late 2021 or 2022. I can see next year being a part two of this year hopefully not worse but you never know.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 22, 2020 16:45:29 GMT 10
I can see next year being a part two of this year hopefully not worse but you never know. That's how I see it as well. Joe Biden will be in office, but otherwise, 2021 will just be an extension of 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 4:43:06 GMT 10
2023. Social distancing is the best thing to come out of all this.
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Post by Early2010sGuy on Dec 23, 2020 16:28:25 GMT 10
The vaccine won't just magically make things go back to normal, in fact, its been only approved for emergency use as not even regular citizens get Pfizer or Modernas vaccine, but we'll see. Several months after people get their second dose, I see theatres and concerts reopening and social distancing becoming less prevalent (We had a glimpse of semi-normal in the summer in my region, but I'll get to this in a bit), though hand sanitizers, temperature checks, altered school schedules are gonna be the new norm for years to come, and I dont really care if we have a new normal or old normal.
In fact, I'll admit that things were back to half-normal around the Spring/Summer in my country, at least. Yes, theatres were still closed and businesses were shutting down, but we were able to see our friends again and occasionally be maskless (Only some areas mandated masks), and I was able to enjoy swimming in the lake without social distancing as cases were declining. However, restaurants and malls, while they were packed with tons of people, still mandated masks and some stores required social distancing. This goes to show that there is still hope for a new normal if cases ever decline, though we'll have to wait like I said, as the vaccine won't just magically change things back the way it is in 1 day.
So if I had to answer this question, my guess is that Early/Mid 2021 is when things go back to half-normal, and maybe Mid/Late 2021 is when things really go back to normal
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 2, 2021 17:47:00 GMT 10
I think there's a hidden sentiment among politicians here in Australia that the pandemic will last until at least 2024. The Reserve Bank of Australia announced today that rates are unlikely to increase until 2024 at the earliest, and the NSW Government is aiming to work towards returning the tourism sector back to pre-pandemic levels by then as well. Scott Morrison mentioned in a live TV interview last night that Australians shouldn't expect things to change "immediately", even after the rollout of the vaccines. To me, it seems as though those in power are preparing for the pandemic lasting well into 2022 and 2023.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 0:21:45 GMT 10
I've pretty much written off everything between now and 2025.
We're going to have to get to the 2030s before the economy comes back, in my opinion.
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