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Post by Telso on Jun 3, 2021 4:19:05 GMT 10
More like 2000
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Post by jaydawg89 on Jun 3, 2021 11:43:23 GMT 10
Why do you say that? Just wondering. I haven't voted as I can also see some connections between 1994 and 2000 such as the Cold War ending and the fashion being more similar...
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Post by slashpop on Jun 5, 2021 16:42:22 GMT 10
Every aspect of this song and video from 94 could be made in 2000:
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Post by jaydawg89 on Jun 5, 2021 16:52:55 GMT 10
Every aspect of this song and video from 94 could be made in 2000: I wouldn't say every aspect but, the song seems closer to 2000 than 1988 for sure. Also, wasn't the music video from 1995? Again, I think the music and fashion of 1994 is a bit closer to 2000 than 1988. Honestly with everyday fashion, it kinda looks like it just froze in the 90s.
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Post by slashpop on Jun 5, 2021 17:11:13 GMT 10
Every aspect of this song and video from 94 could be made in 2000: I wouldn't say every aspect but, the song seems closer to 2000 than 1988 for sure. Also, wasn't the music video from 1995? Again, I think the music and fashion of 1994 is a bit closer to 2000 than 1988. No it’s from music from the jilted generation album was released in 1994. Video may have been released in late 94 or early 95 depending on the region. not much of difference I would say the these two earlier singles from mid to late 94 also have a strong vibe leaning 2000 and are indistinguishable from anything from 1998-2001 which is why those tracks were often replayed so often then and even possibly reused in movies/series ( if I remember correctly) You also say the same with so much stuff from 1994. Like weezer, Green Day 1994 debuts were not dated including hip hop like nas and outlast from then in 99-01 yet grunge and early 90s hip hop was.
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Post by slashpop on Jun 5, 2021 17:16:40 GMT 10
Another weezer debut single from 94 leans closer to 2000. Even the video itself. The only early 90s thing is part of the song, the singers glasses and bowlcut.
2000s leaning hip hop from 94
Nas:
wu tang :
method man :
late 94
Method man and redman from late 1994 album released as a single in early 95 :
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Post by slashpop on Jun 5, 2021 18:49:11 GMT 10
Nine inch nails - Closer:
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Post by astropoug on Mar 20, 2022 14:07:27 GMT 10
If we're talking songs from 1994 that sound like 2000, I don't think there's a better example than this, the song that birthed the most popular rock subgenre of the Y2K era
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Post by astropoug on Mar 20, 2022 16:42:01 GMT 10
Anyways in terms of gaming, 1994 definitely has more in common with 1988 than 2000. Whilst we should keep in mind that 1994 games looked much more advanced than 1988 games, they were still sprite-based. Noteworthy examples include Mortal Kombat, Donkey Kong Country, and Doom. This affected the kinds of games that were popular. 2D platformers for example were still popular, in fact, I’d argue this was the peak. The likes of DKC 1 and 2, Sonic 3 and Knuckles, and Yoshi’s Island were as good as it was gonna get. By 2000, they had died off, and were relegated to handhelds like the Game Boy Color. 3D platformers took their place, such as Spyro and Banjo-Kazooie. Gaming by 2000 played completely differently from games from either 1988 or 1994. Even in regards to how companies were performing, Nintendo and Sega were in their prime in 1988 and 1994, but both, ESPECIALLY Sega was struggling by 2000 against Sony. Arcades likewise were popular in 1988 and 1994, but not 2000. PC gaming in 1994 likewise was still DOS-based, vs 2000 when 3D accelerators and DirectX were now standard.
As for music, well my thoughts vary based on genre. I’d say rock in 1994 was way more similar to 2000 than 1988. I think most of you will agree that the grunge of 1994 has more in common with the nu metal of 2000 than the hair metal of 1988. Rap, on the other hand I find is more similar to 1988. It still has that old-school funky West Coast/East Coast vibe like 1988 vs 2000 when you started hearing Dirty South really making strides (I.e. this is when Outkast blew up in popularity) as well as edgy snarky raps from the likes of Eminem. Have no clue about pop honestly. Somebody else on here can fill me in.
Those are just some of my thoughts on this subject.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Mar 20, 2022 17:00:30 GMT 10
1988
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Post by astropoug on Mar 20, 2022 18:52:45 GMT 10
Windows NT/3.1 wasn’t that drastically different from windows 95, even if 95 did a lot with user friendliness and made Internet use easier. Technically, you’re right, as Windows 95 was based off Windows 3.1’s codebase. Windows NT did introduce preemptive multitasking, but it didn’t matter because Windows NT was not successful, not even among businesses, (for a variety of reasons, namely high system requirements and very few applications developed for it). Windows 95 was STILL very important. It was the final nail in the coffin for command line operating systems, as you still had people using straight MS DOS in the early 90s. It really popularized preemptive multitasking as previously mentioned. And its iconic UI which still remains the basis of Windows to this very day. Have you tried using Windows 3.1 honestly? It has not aged well, and it’s kind of a pain in the ass to use. One of MANY reasons why I consider 1994 more similar to 1988 in terms of tech vs 2000. This video explains better than I can on why Windows 95 was so important.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 20, 2022 19:00:52 GMT 10
Also the dude in the video is like John Titor, since he considers 1995 the quintessential 90s year. And I can see why. It did have elements of the early, mid, and late 90s wrapped into one.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 20, 2022 19:06:26 GMT 10
Politically: - Geo-Politics: 2000 - Socially: Tie - Economy: 1988 Technology: - Shopping & Security: 1988 - Transportation: 2000 - Home Appliances: Tie - Filming & Photography: Tie - Audio & Radio: Tie - Television & Video: Tie - Video Gaming: 1988 - Computers & Internet: 1988 (don't know if I should split this into two). - Telecommunication: 1988 Pop Culture: - Movies: Tie - TV Shows: 1988 - Fashion: 2000 - Music: 2000 Edit: I changed movies to a tie as 1994 did have more CGI such as Jurassic Park and animation was striving with Disney (unlike 1988).I actually consider animated films of 1994 to be more similar to 1988. Toy Story had yet to come out. Pixar and Dreamworks weren’t making animated movies yet. Traditional animation was king. There wasn’t as much competition as in 2000 in general. Also, many actually consider 1988, rather than 1989, to mark the start of the animation renaissance, as that was when Who Framed Roger Rabbit came out. That movie is from Touchstone, AKA Disney.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Mar 20, 2022 19:11:58 GMT 10
Politically: - Geo-Politics: 2000 - Socially: Tie - Economy: 1988 Technology: - Shopping & Security: 1988 - Transportation: 2000 - Home Appliances: Tie - Filming & Photography: Tie - Audio & Radio: Tie - Television & Video: Tie - Video Gaming: 1988 - Computers & Internet: 1988 (don't know if I should split this into two). - Telecommunication: 1988 Pop Culture: - Movies: Tie - TV Shows: 1988 - Fashion: 2000 - Music: 2000 Edit: I changed movies to a tie as 1994 did have more CGI such as Jurassic Park and animation was striving with Disney (unlike 1988).I actually consider animated films of 1994 to be more similar to 1988. Toy Story had yet to come out. Pixar and Dreamworks weren’t making animated movies yet. Traditional animation was king. There wasn’t as much competition as in 2000 in general. Also, many actually consider 1988, rather than 1989, to mark the start of the animation renaissance, as that was when Who Framed Roger Rabbit came out. That movie is from Touchstone, AKA Disney. In the past year I've actually changed my mind on that (I've been watching so many movies in the past year lol). Who Framed Roger Rabbit was a huge hit in 1988 and def changed the direction of animation. 1994 being before Toy Story is a very good point too.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 21, 2022 2:23:11 GMT 10
I think international politics is the one aspect where we can all agree 1994 is more similar to 2000 than 1988. Funnily enough, 2000 was the last year geopolitically to be in the 90s. Then in 2001, well, you know what happened.
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