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Post by pumpkin14 on Jul 19, 2021 14:39:57 GMT 10
I was listening to this song recently after a while and I noticed how this song sounds like it could chart and even reach #1 on the charts if it were released today, unlike a lot of the popular songs of late 2018, when it was released (ex: Happier by Marshmallow, Girls Like You by Maroon 5, etc.). It sounds similar to and blends in with a lot of popular songs of today like Telepatía by Kali Uchis, Kiss Me More by Doja Cat, Peaches by Justin Bieber, Good Days by SZA, etc. It has that hypnotic, bouncy, and melodic flow to it that a lot of popular songs are starting to have now. The songs I mentioned above wouldn’t really fit in late 2018 so I guess this song by Swae Lee and Post Malone was a bit ahead of it’s time and a “sneak peak” of what was to come. I remember it sounding kinda fresh back in 2018, like something I hadn’t heard before. This song and Circles by Post Malone will be considered some of the first “2020s sounding” songs in the future imo
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Post by mc98 on Jul 19, 2021 15:58:26 GMT 10
Oh crap, I'm not the only one. I remember hearing this song in late 2018 and didn't really sound like the current music scene at the time.
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Post by 10slover on Jul 19, 2021 19:00:48 GMT 10
Always thought this song was weird, i didn't like it at first.
It's a really good song and was ahead of it's time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 3:07:18 GMT 10
I'd say Bad Guy by Billie Eilish.
Sunflower and other similar-sounding trap is very late '10s in my opinion. Hip-hop has already begun to move away from that sound.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Jul 20, 2021 3:09:09 GMT 10
For hip hop (I'm a huge hip hop head): I wanna say Juice WRLD started the first traces of how Early 20s melodic trap would sound in 2018 (while still sounding solidly Late 10s), and obv Pop Smoke started the traces of how Early 20s drill would sound in 2019.
RIP to both.
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Post by mc98 on Jul 20, 2021 3:18:52 GMT 10
I'd say Bad Guy by Billie Eilish. Sunflower and other similar-sounding trap is very late '10s in my opinion. Hip-hop has already begun to move away from that sound. Sunflower is not trap though. It's a very chill pop song.
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Post by 10slover on Jul 20, 2021 3:28:09 GMT 10
In a similar vein, what was the first 2010s song?
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Post by John Titor on Jul 20, 2021 3:53:19 GMT 10
In a similar vein, what was the first 2010s song?
^ the above song came out in late 2009 but charted high into the early bits of 2010
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 4:54:50 GMT 10
I'd say Bad Guy by Billie Eilish. Sunflower and other similar-sounding trap is very late '10s in my opinion. Hip-hop has already begun to move away from that sound. Sunflower is not trap though. It's a very chill pop song. It is, but in my opinion it fits in nicely with the broader bedroom pop/lo-fi vibe of the late 2010s (that has extended to the current day).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 12:01:59 GMT 10
For hip hop (I'm a huge hip hop head): I wanna say Juice WRLD started the first traces of how Early 20s melodic trap would sound in 2018 (while still sounding solidly Late 10s), and obv Pop Smoke started the traces of how Early 20s drill would sound in 2019. RIP to both. Exactly. Juice Wrld is the one who changed the game. He's the one who brought in more '20s sounding rap music (melodic sound) and all other artists followed him.
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Post by xamo on Jul 20, 2021 20:27:14 GMT 10
I feel like it’s still too early to say what is the first 2020s song. Besides, Sunflower and Circles mirrors a lot of indie pop/alt R&B from the 2010s, so it’s not particularly innovative. If anything, it just shows how mainstream pop isn’t close to being as cutting-edge as it was even just a decade ago. For example, Electro-pop had existed for decades, but Lady Gaga truly brought something new, something the general public had not seen before. I still feel like a lot of current pop lives in the vintage drum machine, post-Frank Ocean’s Blond mixed in with Lorde and St Vincent. 80s-inspo is nothing new. I still enjoy it though, it brings me back to pre-Covid times.
Billie is closer, but she hasn’t hit the mark, and her debut album isn’t close to being as influential as people would thought it would be. You don’t see a lot of Billie clones, in fact, Olivia Rodrigo has much more similarities with Taylor Swift and Lorde than with Billie.
Keep in mind we’re in mid 2021, this is akin to us predicting what the 90s would be like in mid 1991: months before Nevermind by Nirvana exploded the grunge scene and years before 90s stars like Mariah Carey, TLC, 2Pac, Aaliyah, Björk, Radiohead, and so many others would begin to be well known. I always say the 3rd/4th year (2022/23) is deep enough to have a stronger foundation of what constitutes the cultural zeitgeist of the 2020s.
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Post by mc98 on Jul 21, 2021 0:32:50 GMT 10
I feel like it’s still too early to say what is the first 2020s song. Besides, Sunflower and Circles mirrors a lot of indie pop/alt R&B from the 2010s, so it’s not particularly innovative. If anything, it just shows how mainstream pop isn’t close to being as cutting-edge as it was even just a decade ago. For example, Electro-pop had existed for decades, but Lady Gaga truly brought something new, something the general public had not seen before. I still feel like a lot of current pop lives in the vintage drum machine, post-Frank Ocean’s Blond mixed in with Lorde and St Vincent. 80s-inspo is nothing new. I still enjoy it though, it brings me back to pre-Covid times. Billie is closer, but she hasn’t hit the mark, and her debut album isn’t close to being as influential as people would thought it would be. You don’t see a lot of Billie clones, in fact, Olivia Rodrigo has much more similarities with Taylor Swift and Lorde than with Billie. Keep in mind we’re in mid 2021, this is akin to us predicting what the 90s would be like in mid 1991: months before Nevermind by Nirvana exploded the grunge scene and years before 90s stars like Mariah Carey, TLC, 2Pac, Aaliyah, Björk, Radiohead, and so many others would begin to be well known. I always say the 3rd/4th year (2022/23) is deep enough to have a stronger foundation of what constitutes the cultural zeitgeist of the 2020s. A lot of the music today doesn’t sound core 2010s that’s for sure. I don’t think they would be popular even in 2017/18.
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Post by xamo on Jul 21, 2021 17:28:19 GMT 10
I feel like it’s still too early to say what is the first 2020s song. Besides, Sunflower and Circles mirrors a lot of indie pop/alt R&B from the 2010s, so it’s not particularly innovative. If anything, it just shows how mainstream pop isn’t close to being as cutting-edge as it was even just a decade ago. For example, Electro-pop had existed for decades, but Lady Gaga truly brought something new, something the general public had not seen before. I still feel like a lot of current pop lives in the vintage drum machine, post-Frank Ocean’s Blond mixed in with Lorde and St Vincent. 80s-inspo is nothing new. I still enjoy it though, it brings me back to pre-Covid times. Billie is closer, but she hasn’t hit the mark, and her debut album isn’t close to being as influential as people would thought it would be. You don’t see a lot of Billie clones, in fact, Olivia Rodrigo has much more similarities with Taylor Swift and Lorde than with Billie. Keep in mind we’re in mid 2021, this is akin to us predicting what the 90s would be like in mid 1991: months before Nevermind by Nirvana exploded the grunge scene and years before 90s stars like Mariah Carey, TLC, 2Pac, Aaliyah, Björk, Radiohead, and so many others would begin to be well known. I always say the 3rd/4th year (2022/23) is deep enough to have a stronger foundation of what constitutes the cultural zeitgeist of the 2020s. A lot of the music today doesn’t sound core 2010s that’s for sure. I don’t think they would be popular even in 2017/18. On a surface level, for sure. Dua Lipa is very 2020. But if you dive deeper it turns out they're mostly still doing updated 2010s trends: The Weeknd's After Hours has a fun and memorable 80s synth pop vibe to it, with other tracks showcasing his signature "Dark R&B" type productions. He's been making this kind of music since 2011. After Hours could be released in 2016 and still be a hit. Core 2010s. Dua Lipa's Future Nostalgia is mixed. Some songs seem fresh and somewhat disconnected from 2010s music lore. Others, like Levitating, Don't Start Now, Hallucinate, and Love Again to name a few are very much successors of Calvin Harris and Daft Punk's signature 2010s nu-disco production. Physical and Cool have ties to the iconic Emotion album (2015, Carly Rae Jepson). Ironically the least 2010s-like songs are the deep cuts. Late 2010s IMO. Kali Uchis has connections with the Frank Ocean/Tyler the Creator alt-R&B world and she's also Colombian/South American which adds a unique touch to her music. This is reflected in half the album being is in the core 2010s whereas the other half is forging a new road with R&B-influenced Reggaeton and Urbano, so 2020s. The Spanish deep cuts are very refreshing. This album is a cusp album leaning 2020s tbh. I can't see Telepatía being big before 2020 at all. Good Days could be a Ctrl single. Late 2010s. Kiss Me More is very early 2020s to me, just for the fact that it's drenched in Doja's refreshing style and it has a very TikTok-ready aura. There's no way Kiss Me More would be top 10 before 2019. Early 2020s. The most post-2010s songs are actually either not that popular or not as "obvious". Think PinkPanthress or Ayesha Erotica.
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Post by mc98 on Jul 21, 2021 22:38:47 GMT 10
A lot of the music today doesn’t sound core 2010s that’s for sure. I don’t think they would be popular even in 2017/18. On a surface level, for sure. Dua Lipa is very 2020. But if you dive deeper it turns out they're mostly still doing updated 2010s trends: The Weeknd's After Hours has a fun and memorable 80s synth pop vibe to it, with other tracks showcasing his signature "Dark R&B" type productions. He's been making this kind of music since 2011. After Hours could be released in 2016 and still be a hit. Core 2010s. Dua Lipa's Future Nostalgia is mixed. Some songs seem fresh and somewhat disconnected from 2010s music lore. Others, like Levitating, Don't Start Now, Hallucinate, and Love Again to name a few are very much successors of Calvin Harris and Daft Punk's signature 2010s nu-disco production. Physical and Cool have ties to the iconic Emotion album (2015, Carly Rae Jepson). Ironically the least 2010s-like songs are the deep cuts. Late 2010s IMO. Kali Uchis has connections with the Frank Ocean/Tyler the Creator alt-R&B world and she's also Colombian/South American which adds a unique touch to her music. This is reflected in half the album being is in the core 2010s whereas the other half is forging a new road with R&B-influenced Reggaeton and Urbano, so 2020s. The Spanish deep cuts are very refreshing. This album is a cusp album leaning 2020s tbh. I can't see Telepatía being big before 2020 at all. Good Days could be a Ctrl single. Late 2010s. Kiss Me More is very early 2020s to me, just for the fact that it's drenched in Doja's refreshing style and it has a very TikTok-ready aura. There's no way Kiss Me More would be top 10 before 2019. Early 2020s. The most post-2010s songs are actually either not that popular or not as "obvious". Think PinkPanthress or Ayesha Erotica. Heartless by The Weeknd could be a hit in 2016 but his songs Blinding Lights and Save Your Tears would've been too synth-heavy and upbeat for the downtempo late 2010s besides 2019. How about Peaches, Montero, Bad Habits, Drivers License, and Good 4 U?
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Post by rainbow on Jul 21, 2021 22:59:28 GMT 10
IMO there are certain 2021 pop songs that would sound a bit out of place in 2017 and 2018. “good 4 u” by Olivia Rodrigo and “Kiss Me” by Doja Cat come to mind. But if Olivia Rodrigo released Drivers License in 2018, I wouldn’t think it would sound out of place at all.
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