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Post by Telso on Nov 26, 2021 7:48:18 GMT 10
I'm not sure what type of 80s music y'all hear in "Bad Habits", but we're certainly not thinking about the same decade.
Sounds like a pretty typical future house song to me, very much in the same vain as "Roses" from last year:
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Post by nightmarefarm on Nov 26, 2021 14:49:01 GMT 10
It being inspired by the 80s makes it a 20s song since that is the dominant style this decade whereas the 10s was more about electropop/EDM/indie in the first half and Trap/Mumble rap/Tropical house and EDM-pop in the second half with funky retro style music being relatively scarce. Only artist I know who consistently pumped out that type of music in the 10s is bruno mars. The production in that song definitely does not sound fresh at all It could've been released in 2017-2018 This is what a song released in that timeframe sounds like. Bad habits sounds completely different.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Nov 26, 2021 14:53:37 GMT 10
Sure, but the throwbacks need to go. They actually seem to be fading away this year compared to 2020. 2020 is definitely the peak of throwback music. Nah 2020 was the start of it. The early 20s will be defined by throwbacks. 2020 had less throwbacks since you still had lots of late 10s style hits.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Nov 26, 2021 15:15:30 GMT 10
Sure, but the throwbacks need to go. They actually seem to be fading away this year compared to 2020. 2020 is definitely the peak of throwback music. Nah 2020 was the start of it. The early 20s will be defined by throwbacks. 2020 had less throwbacks since you still had lots of late 10s style hits. 2020 isn't the start of it. It started around 2016/2017 (you could make a point for even earlier, like 2013), it just wasn't as in your face until late 2019 and 2020 which is why I say 2020 is the peak, since it's starting to calm down now. It's mostly an early 20s thing yeah, but 2020 is part of the early 20s and IMO it peaked in 2020. Doesn't mean it isn't still around. The biggest throwback hits of "this year" (Levitating and Save Your Tears) were actually released in late 2020.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Nov 26, 2021 16:54:32 GMT 10
Nah 2020 was the start of it. The early 20s will be defined by throwbacks. 2020 had less throwbacks since you still had lots of late 10s style hits. 2020 isn't the start of it. It started around 2016/2017 (you could make a point for even earlier, like 2013), it just wasn't as in your face until late 2019 and 2020 which is why I say 2020 is the peak, since it's starting to calm down now. It's mostly an early 20s thing yeah, but 2020 is part of the early 20s and IMO it peaked in 2020. Doesn't mean it isn't still around. 2020 is the peak, since it's starting to calm down now. The biggest throwback hits of "this year" (Levitating and Save Your Tears) were actually released in late 2020. >2020 isn't the start of it. It started around 2016/2017 (you could make a point for even earlier, like 2013) It wasn't a common style until 2020 and the only artist who consistently did retro throwbacks was bruno mars. Technically modern electropop began in 2004 with "What you waiting for" by gwen stefani but wasn't common until late 2008 or 2009. >The biggest throwback hits of "this year" (Levitating and Save Your Tears) were actually released in late 2020. They were more popular this year which is more relevant than the actual release date.
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Post by 10slover on Nov 26, 2021 20:50:55 GMT 10
I'm not sure what type of 80s music y'all hear in "Bad Habits", but we're certainly not thinking about the same decade. Sounds like a pretty typical future house song to me, very much in the same vain as "Roses" from last year: True, there's nothin fresh about that song, it sounds like 2018 to me and most people will agree Besides, even if it did sound fresh it would still stink, it's a generic ed sheeran song after all
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Post by nightmarefarm on Nov 26, 2021 21:35:25 GMT 10
I'm not sure what type of 80s music y'all hear in "Bad Habits", but we're certainly not thinking about the same decade. Sounds like a pretty typical future house song to me, very much in the same vain as "Roses" from last year: That sounds absolutely nothing like Bad Habits. It almost sounds like hyperpop with the heavily processed vocals.
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Post by Telso on Nov 26, 2021 23:03:52 GMT 10
That sounds absolutely nothing like Bad Habits. It almost sounds like hyperpop with the heavily processed vocals. The main beat of "Bad Habits" is pretty much copy pasted from "Roses". Come on now.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Nov 27, 2021 0:28:58 GMT 10
That sounds absolutely nothing like Bad Habits. It almost sounds like hyperpop with the heavily processed vocals. The main beat of "Bad Habits" is pretty much copy pasted from "Roses". Come on now. No it isn't. And on top of that the vocals are completely different with the heavily processed vocals in roses compared to no autotune or processing at all on Sheerans vocals in Bad Habits.
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Post by Telso on Nov 27, 2021 0:40:22 GMT 10
No it isn't. And on top of that the vocals are completely different with the heavily processed vocals in roses compared to no autotune or processing at all on Sheerans vocals in Bad Habits. The vocals aren't what's important, it's the production. Lady Gaga's vocals on "Bad Romance" are left unprocessed, while Ke$ha's are drenched with autotune on "Tik Tok" to the point she sounds like a robot. And despite that, both songs are considered electropop classics.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Nov 27, 2021 1:02:17 GMT 10
No it isn't. And on top of that the vocals are completely different with the heavily processed vocals in roses compared to no autotune or processing at all on Sheerans vocals in Bad Habits. The vocals aren't what's important, it's the production. Lady Gaga's vocals on "Bad Romance" are left unprocessed, while Ke$ha's are drenched with autotune on "Tik Tok" to the point she sounds like a robot. And despite that, both songs are considered electropop classics. Yes it is, vocals are like half of what gives a song it's sound. Most people lump all electropop under one banner but I think there is a huge variety in the different electropop tracks released in the 2008-2013 timeframe. TikTok and Bad Romance do in fact sound very different.
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Post by Telso on Nov 28, 2021 23:04:16 GMT 10
The vocals aren't what's important, it's the production. Lady Gaga's vocals on "Bad Romance" are left unprocessed, while Ke$ha's are drenched with autotune on "Tik Tok" to the point she sounds like a robot. And despite that, both songs are considered electropop classics. Yes it is, vocals are like half of what gives a song it's sound. Most people lump all electropop under one banner but I think there is a huge variety in the different electropop tracks released in the 2008-2013 timeframe. TikTok and Bad Romance do in fact sound very different. Nah, especially in the cases of pop and electronic, they're mostly defined by their production. A song doesn't change magically genre just because someone else sings on it. And same with if you remove the vocals, you get the instrumental version of it, but it still is in the same genre.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Nov 28, 2021 23:39:09 GMT 10
Yes it is, vocals are like half of what gives a song it's sound. Most people lump all electropop under one banner but I think there is a huge variety in the different electropop tracks released in the 2008-2013 timeframe. TikTok and Bad Romance do in fact sound very different. Nah, especially in the cases of pop and electronic, they're mostly defined by their production. A song doesn't change magically genre just because someone else sings on it. And same with if you remove the vocals, you get the instrumental version of it, but it still is in the same genre. So this: Sounds similar to this? hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQf13Mbza9k&ab_channel=UsherVEVO Yes they are all electronic based and pop. But those are very broad genres. You could lump them all together under the same banner from a broad point of view but they still sound very different. The electropop of 2011-2013 sounds closer to EDM than the electropop of 2008-2010 despite EDM being considered a completely seperate genre.
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Post by 10slover on Nov 29, 2021 0:20:20 GMT 10
Also, you people need to understand that EVERY song nowadays has autotune or some sort of vocal polishing in them
Even songs by alternative rock bands and such use it nowadays
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Post by Telso on Nov 29, 2021 5:34:09 GMT 10
]Yes they are all electronic based and pop. But those are very broad genres. You could lump them all together under the same banner from a broad point of view but they still sound very different. The electropop of 2011-2013 sounds closer to EDM than the electropop of 2008-2010 despite EDM being considered a completely seperate genre. You're basically confirming my point. The differences lie on the production. Some of those songs are production-wise more influenced by things like electro house than others. The same way "Roses" is a future house song and "Bad Habits" is a pop song with future house beats.
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