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Post by nightmarefarm on Dec 20, 2021 7:08:21 GMT 10
The two rat years of the 21st century so far are 2008 and 2020. Coincidence, I think not.
I guess we'll have to wait until 2032 for another big shift.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 8:18:04 GMT 10
The two rat years of the 21st century so far are 2008 and 2020. Coincidence, I think not. I guess we'll have to wait until 2032 for another big shift. That's definitely quite a coincidence. 1996 was a significant shift as well as that was the beginning of the digital era. '96, '08, and '20 were all major shifts in my personal life. This zodiac cycle is the "metal" cycle which is particularly ominous. The last year of the metal rat was 1960.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Dec 20, 2021 8:20:43 GMT 10
The two rat years of the 21st century so far are 2008 and 2020. Coincidence, I think not. I guess we'll have to wait until 2032 for another big shift. That's definitely quite a coincidence. 1996 was a significant shift as well as that was the beginning of the digital era. '96, '08, and '20 were all major shifts in my personal life. This zodiac cycle is the "metal" cycle which is particularly ominous. The last year of the metal rat was 1960. I thought 1997 or 1998 was considered the big shift of the 90s
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Post by 10slover on Dec 20, 2021 8:47:39 GMT 10
The two rat years of the 21st century so far are 2008 and 2020. Coincidence, I think not. I guess we'll have to wait until 2032 for another big shift. That's definitely quite a coincidence. 1996 was a significant shift as well as that was the beginning of the digital era. '96, '08, and '20 were all major shifts in my personal life. This zodiac cycle is the "metal" cycle which is particularly ominous. The last year of the metal rat was 1960. Was 1960 a big shift?
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Post by John Titor on Dec 20, 2021 9:06:47 GMT 10
2001 was not a rat year
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Post by John Titor on Dec 20, 2021 9:07:11 GMT 10
The two rat years of the 21st century so far are 2008 and 2020. Coincidence, I think not. I guess we'll have to wait until 2032 for another big shift. 2001 was not a rat year
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Post by nightmarefarm on Dec 20, 2021 9:28:36 GMT 10
The two rat years of the 21st century so far are 2008 and 2020. Coincidence, I think not. I guess we'll have to wait until 2032 for another big shift. 2001 was not a rat year And it isn't as big of a shift as 2008 or 2020
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Post by John Titor on Dec 20, 2021 9:30:52 GMT 10
And it isn't as big of a shift as 2008 or 2020 , if you did you would know why 2001 had a shift felt as big as 2008. I agree not as big as 2020 tho. So if you have no memory of 2003,2002 there is no way you can clearly remember 2001 and how it felt living in it. Apples and oranges between every shift year, but 2001 was very pivotal and not just 9/11. 2001,2008 are the biggest shift years of the 2000s.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 9:34:50 GMT 10
And it isn't as big of a shift as 2008 or 2020 , if you did you would know why 2001 had a shift felt as big as 2008. I agree not as big as 2020 tho. So if you have no memory of 2003,2002 there is no way you can clearly remember 2001 and how it felt living in it. Apples and oranges between every shift year, but 2001 was very pivotal and not just 9/11. 2001 had a shift but it was nowhere close to 2008 or 2020. Rat years tend to reshape the world completely.
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Post by John Titor on Dec 20, 2021 9:36:18 GMT 10
You have no memory of anything before 2004, if you did you would know why 2001 had a shift felt as big as 2008. I agree not as big as 2020 tho. So if you have no memory of 2003,2002 there is no way you can clearly remember 2001 and how it felt living in it. Apples and oranges between every shift year, but 2001 was very pivotal and not just 9/11. 2001 had a shift but it was nowhere close to 2008 or 2020. Rat years tend to reshape the world completely. It really is apples and oranges, and 2001 is not like 2004 or 2006 shifts, the world was kind of reshaped in 2001 in a way ( even before 9/11 hit)
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Post by nightmarefarm on Dec 20, 2021 9:39:30 GMT 10
And it isn't as big of a shift as 2008 or 2020 You have no memory of anything before 2004, if you did you would know why 2001 had a shift felt as big as 2008. I agree not as big as 2020 tho. No but I can do a thing called research. 2001 had 9/11 and somewhat of a shift in pop culture. But still, the shifts in 2008 with the recession start, obama being elected and the very start of electropop being popular is way bigger. Namely the recession. 9/11 is a one off event which warrants a shift but not as significant as the stock market completely crashing, many people losing their houses, their jobs and businesses, etc. 2008 shift is multifaceted, 2001 shift is 99% 9/11. This isn't just me theorizing, most people that vividly remember the time agree on this.
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Post by John Titor on Dec 20, 2021 9:42:43 GMT 10
You have no memory of anything before 2004, if you did you would know why 2001 had a shift felt as big as 2008. I agree not as big as 2020 tho. No but I can do a thing called research. 2001 had 9/11 and somewhat of a shift in pop culture. But still, the shifts in 2008 with the recession start, obama being elected and the very start of electropop being popular is way bigger. Namely the recession. 9/11 is a one off event which warrants a shift but not as significant as the stock market completely crashing, many people losing their houses, their jobs and businesses, etc. 2008 shift is multifaceted, 2001 shift is 99% 9/11. This isn't just me theorizing, most people that vividly remember the time agree on this. 2008 was bigger objectively, but 2001 is right behind it ( in terms of top 2000s shift years) The fact that you think 9/11 is 99% the shift in 2001 proves you don't know what you are talking about. ask slashpop he will agree with me
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Post by nightmarefarm on Dec 20, 2021 9:45:02 GMT 10
No but I can do a thing called research. 2001 had 9/11 and somewhat of a shift in pop culture. But still, the shifts in 2008 with the recession start, obama being elected and the very start of electropop being popular is way bigger. Namely the recession. 9/11 is a one off event which warrants a shift but not as significant as the stock market completely crashing, many people losing their houses, their jobs and businesses, etc. 2008 shift is multifaceted, 2001 shift is 99% 9/11. This isn't just me theorizing, most people that vividly remember the time agree on this. 2008 was bigger objectively, but 2001 is right behind it ( in terms of top 2000s shift years) The fact that you think 9/11 is 99% the shift in 2001 proves you don't know what you are talking about. ask slashpop he will agree with me 9/11 is easily the biggest shift of that year. Yes you have changes in pop culture but that was the defining world altering event shift that year. When people say "pre 9/11" or "post 9/11", they're not talking about fashion or gaming or music.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 9:45:33 GMT 10
2001 had a shift but it was nowhere close to 2008 or 2020. Rat years tend to reshape the world completely. It really is apples and oranges, and 2001 is not like 2004 or 2006 shifts, the world was kind of reshaped in 2001 in a way ( even before 9/11 hit) Not really. Pop music maybe, but not the world.
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Post by John Titor on Dec 20, 2021 9:53:35 GMT 10
2008 was bigger objectively, but 2001 is right behind it ( in terms of top 2000s shift years) The fact that you think 9/11 is 99% the shift in 2001 proves you don't know what you are talking about. ask slashpop he will agree with me 9/11 is easily the biggest shift of that year. Yes you have changes in pop culture but that was the defining world altering event shift that year. When people say "pre 9/11" or "post 9/11", they're not talking about fashion or gaming or music. pop culture was shifting before 9/11 even happened, the changes in pop culture in 2001 set the template for the rest of the 2000s ( and this is before 9/11 once again)
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