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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 23, 2022 2:20:56 GMT 10
Didn't feel that way from what I recall. I remember hearing just dance playing on TV and radio back in 2008 and it didn't make a difference because it was just one song. As popular as it was, every other song at the time sounded as 2000s as it gets. The closest thing which compares is Katy Perry but even her debut hits that year were partially pop rock which roots it in the 2000s. If one song is enough to shift to a new decade then "Sexyback" or "What are you waiting for" by Gwen Stefani should be the start of the 2010s. continued this period of November 2008 to February 2009 is also when we saw the final days of Circuity City and Kb toys take place. Even tho both stores were on the decline it was a BIG deal that these spots were empty in the mall. The Mall ( which people still went to) started feeling "different". Also Hipster started to get even more popular Q4 of 2008. And that is not true at all about only "1" song lol. Example from November 2008 to Early 2009. RedOne ^^^I thought we were talking about late 08? Well, if we're also talking about the first half of 09, I should mention bulletproof was released at the end of the school year and wasn't big until like august. Fire burning is one of the handful electropop songs in the first half of 2009, but even that has late 00s influences with the timbaland inspired drum productions. RedOne is heavily inspired by timbaland and incorporates a similar beat pattern in his songs such as fire burning. He isn't really representative of early 10s music since the popular stuff he worked on was mainly in the 2008-2010 stretch(go search his discography on wikipedia). Obama got inaugurated which is a big thing. I'll give you that one. The recessio caused shops to shut down. The recession was what defines the late 00s zeitgeist as it took place within that time frame, from late 2007 to mid 2009. All those shops shutting down and the gloomy vibe is what defines the late 00s. The end of the recession is the dividing line that splits the late 00s from the early 10s. Like how in a finale of a TV season something dramatically happens which changes the status quo, like a big hack or a bomb going off. The finale is still part of that TV season. The first episode of the next season is where it picks off after that, like how late 2009 was the start of the new status quo after the recession had ended.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 23, 2022 2:32:38 GMT 10
continued this period of November 2008 to February 2009 is also when we saw the final days of Circuity City and Kb toys take place. Even tho both stores were on the decline it was a BIG deal that these spots were empty in the mall. The Mall ( which people still went to) started feeling "different". Also Hipster started to get even more popular Q4 of 2008. And that is not true at all about only "1" song lol. Example from November 2008 to Early 2009. RedOne ^^^I thought we were talking about late 08? Well, if we're also talking about the first half of 09, I should mention bulletproof was released at the end of the school year and wasn't big until like august. Fire burning is one of the handful electropop songs in the first half of 2009, but even that has late 00s influences with the timbaland inspired drum productions. RedOne is heavily inspired by timbaland and incorporates a similar beat pattern in his songs such as fire burning. He isn't really representative of early 10s music since the popular stuff he worked on was mainly in the 2008-2010 stretch(go search his discography on wikipedia). Obama got inaugurated which is a big thing. I'll give you that one. The recessio caused shops to shut down. The recession was what defines the late 00s zeitgeist as it took place within that time frame, from late 2007 to mid 2009. All those shops shutting down and the gloomy vibe is what defines the late 00s. The end of the recession is the dividing line that splits the late 00s from the early 10s. Like how in a finale of a TV season something dramatically happens which changes the status quo, like a big hack or a bomb going off. The finale is still part of that TV season. The first episode of the next season is where it picks off after that, like how late 2009 was the start of the new status quo after the recession had ended. Does not matter if Timbaland influenced him, Timbaland influenced a ton of producers, it sounds very Red One, the sound that would take over. That La Roux song started making the rounds leaked in November 2008, The Recession despite being over ( its effects) continued until late 2013, a big portion of the early 2010s.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 23, 2022 2:53:56 GMT 10
I thought we were talking about late 08? Well, if we're also talking about the first half of 09, I should mention bulletproof was released at the end of the school year and wasn't big until like august. Fire burning is one of the handful electropop songs in the first half of 2009, but even that has late 00s influences with the timbaland inspired drum productions. RedOne is heavily inspired by timbaland and incorporates a similar beat pattern in his songs such as fire burning. He isn't really representative of early 10s music since the popular stuff he worked on was mainly in the 2008-2010 stretch(go search his discography on wikipedia). Obama got inaugurated which is a big thing. I'll give you that one. The recessio caused shops to shut down. The recession was what defines the late 00s zeitgeist as it took place within that time frame, from late 2007 to mid 2009. All those shops shutting down and the gloomy vibe is what defines the late 00s. The end of the recession is the dividing line that splits the late 00s from the early 10s. Like how in a finale of a TV season something dramatically happens which changes the status quo, like a big hack or a bomb going off. The finale is still part of that TV season. The first episode of the next season is where it picks off after that, like how late 2009 was the start of the new status quo after the recession had ended. Does not matter if Timbaland influenced him, Timbaland influenced a ton of producers, it sounds very Red One, the sound that would take over. That La Roux song started making the rounds leaked in November 2008, The Recession despite being over ( its effects) continued until late 2013, a big portion of the early 2010s. >Does not matter if Timbaland influenced him, Timbaland influenced a ton of producers it sounds very Red One, the sound that would take over. It does because it still has a somewhat of a 00s feel to it because of that in a way that anything from 2011-2013 doesn't. You're getting redone mixed up with the early 10s, red one dropped of after 2010 and it shows. Here's a comparison to put things into perspective: This is RedOnes version of "More" by Usher This is Jimmy Joker(an early 10s producer) version of "More" by Usher Day and night. RedOne was big in the late 2008-2010 stretch and sounded completely different to most of the electropop in the early 10s. >That La Roux song started making the rounds leaked in November 2008 I didn't hear that on the radio or TV until about august. That's when it got popular which is more relevant. >The Recession despite being over ( its effects) continued until late 2013, a big portion of the early 2010s. The aftereffects are what defines the early 10s. But not the height of the recession. The peak of something and the aftermath effects are completely different. It shows as well just going by the overall vibe and gloomy the 08-09 school year was compared to 09-10 which felt a lot brighter even if it was at the beginning of the recovery and the economy was still bad. It's like saying the early 40s with WW2 are the same as the late 40s when it had ended but society was recovering from it.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 23, 2022 4:56:23 GMT 10
Does not matter if Timbaland influenced him, Timbaland influenced a ton of producers, it sounds very Red One, the sound that would take over. That La Roux song started making the rounds leaked in November 2008, The Recession despite being over ( its effects) continued until late 2013, a big portion of the early 2010s. >Does not matter if Timbaland influenced him, Timbaland influenced a ton of producers it sounds very Red One, the sound that would take over. It does because it still has a somewhat of a 00s feel to it because of that in a way that anything from 2011-2013 doesn't. You're getting redone mixed up with the early 10s, red one dropped of after 2010 and it shows. Here's a comparison to put things into perspective: This is Jimmy Joker(an early 10s producer) version of "More" by Usher Day and night. RedOne was big in the late 2008-2010 stretch and sounded completely different to most of the electropop in the early 10s. >That La Roux song started making the rounds leaked in November 2008 I didn't hear that on the radio or TV until about august. That's when it got popular which is more relevant. >The Recession despite being over ( its effects) continued until late 2013, a big portion of the early 2010s. The aftereffects are what defines the early 10s. But not the height of the recession. The peak of something and the aftermath effects are completely different. It shows as well just going by the overall vibe and gloomy the 08-09 school year was compared to 09-10 which felt a lot brighter even if it was at the beginning of the recovery and the economy was still bad. It's like saying the early 40s with WW2 are the same as the late 40s when it had ended but society was recovering from it. Wrong Wrong and Wrong lol Red One's sound despite being a little bit of inspired by Timbaland, is different enough to have it's own style, and that style was around in 2010 and 2011 despite what you say. Be it as it may Quicksand from LaRoux charted in December 2008 and was on the radio. That is fine if you didn't hear that one either but everyone else did. The peak of the recession wasn't felt until 2009 and 2010 and 2011 and some of 2012, if a earthquake goes off does it matter the second it goes off ? No it matters when u get the whiplash of the ground breaking apart causing damage. By your logic the second an earthquake goes off is more important than the damage it causes. I disagree with 08-09 feeling gloomy, all of 08 felt pretty bright. Terrible take lol
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 23, 2022 5:26:23 GMT 10
>Does not matter if Timbaland influenced him, Timbaland influenced a ton of producers it sounds very Red One, the sound that would take over. It does because it still has a somewhat of a 00s feel to it because of that in a way that anything from 2011-2013 doesn't. You're getting redone mixed up with the early 10s, red one dropped of after 2010 and it shows. Here's a comparison to put things into perspective: This is Jimmy Joker(an early 10s producer) version of "More" by Usher Day and night. RedOne was big in the late 2008-2010 stretch and sounded completely different to most of the electropop in the early 10s. >That La Roux song started making the rounds leaked in November 2008 I didn't hear that on the radio or TV until about august. That's when it got popular which is more relevant. >The Recession despite being over ( its effects) continued until late 2013, a big portion of the early 2010s. The aftereffects are what defines the early 10s. But not the height of the recession. The peak of something and the aftermath effects are completely different. It shows as well just going by the overall vibe and gloomy the 08-09 school year was compared to 09-10 which felt a lot brighter even if it was at the beginning of the recovery and the economy was still bad. It's like saying the early 40s with WW2 are the same as the late 40s when it had ended but society was recovering from it. Wrong Wrong and Wrong lol Red One's sound despite being a little bit of inspired by Timbaland, is different enough to have it's own style, and that style was around in 2010 and 2011 despite what you say. Be it as it may Quicksand from LaRoux charted in December 2008 and was on the radio. That is fine if you didn't hear that one either but everyone else did. The peak of the recession wasn't felt until 2009 and 2010 and 2011 and some of 2012, if a earthquake goes off does it matter the second it goes off ? No it matters when u get the whiplash of the ground breaking apart causing damage. By your logic the second an earthquake goes off is more important than the damage it causes. I disagree with 08-09 feeling gloomy, all of 08 felt pretty bright. Terrible take lol >I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG!!!!111 >Ignores comparison which proves that RedOnes sound was not the typical early 10s club sound but rather a precursor which was a mix of both 00s timbaland style and the early 10s club electro sound Ok. >Be it as it may Quicksand from LaRoux charted in December 2008 and was on the radio. That is fine if you didn't hear that one either but everyone else did. >"Quicksand" is a song by English synth-pop duo La Roux from their eponymous debut studio album (2009). Written and produced by Elly Jackson and Ben Langmaid, the song was released as the album's lead single on 15 December 2008 by Kitsuné.[1] It peaked at number 153 on the UK Singles Chart upon limited release.[2] When re-released on 23 November 2009, the single re-entered the chart at number 129. So charting outside the top 100 passes as mainstream? ? ? I learn something new every day. >The peak of the recession wasn't felt until 2009 and 2010 and 2011 and some of 2012No it wasn't. Objectively wrong again. imgbb.com/0cP8Z25Early-Mid 2009 was the peak of the recession and in June it ended. Late 2009 was the beginning of the recovery so it makes sense for that to be the start of the new era. Yes the economy was in shambles, that's because late 2009 as well as the early 10s was suffering from the aftereffects. It was nowhere as bad as it was when it was actually happening and it was more consistent. It was a consistently slow but gradual recovery, in late 2008 and 2009 it was all up in the air and chaotic since we didn't know how bad it would get and like you mentioned stores were closing down during the 08 09 school year. The recession peak and recovery are not the same thing.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 23, 2022 5:47:08 GMT 10
Wrong Wrong and Wrong lol Red One's sound despite being a little bit of inspired by Timbaland, is different enough to have it's own style, and that style was around in 2010 and 2011 despite what you say. Be it as it may Quicksand from LaRoux charted in December 2008 and was on the radio. That is fine if you didn't hear that one either but everyone else did. The peak of the recession wasn't felt until 2009 and 2010 and 2011 and some of 2012, if a earthquake goes off does it matter the second it goes off ? No it matters when u get the whiplash of the ground breaking apart causing damage. By your logic the second an earthquake goes off is more important than the damage it causes. I disagree with 08-09 feeling gloomy, all of 08 felt pretty bright. Terrible take lol >I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG!!!!111 >Ignores comparison which proves that RedOnes sound was not the typical early 10s club sound but rather a precursor which was a mix of both 00s timbaland style and the early 10s club electro sound Ok. >Be it as it may Quicksand from LaRoux charted in December 2008 and was on the radio. That is fine if you didn't hear that one either but everyone else did. >"Quicksand" is a song by English synth-pop duo La Roux from their eponymous debut studio album (2009). Written and produced by Elly Jackson and Ben Langmaid, the song was released as the album's lead single on 15 December 2008 by Kitsuné.[1] It peaked at number 153 on the UK Singles Chart upon limited release.[2] When re-released on 23 November 2009, the single re-entered the chart at number 129. So charting outside the top 100 passes as mainstream?  I learn something new every day. >The peak of the recession wasn't felt until 2009 and 2010 and 2011 and some of 2012No it wasn't. Objectively wrong again. imgbb.com/0cP8Z25Early-Mid 2009 was the peak of the recession and in June it ended. Late 2009 was the beginning of the recovery so it makes sense for that to be the start of the new era. Yes the economy was in shambles, that's because late 2009 as well as the early 10s was suffering from the aftereffects. It was nowhere as bad as it was when it was actually happening and it was more consistent. It was a consistently slow but gradual recovery, in late 2008 and 2009 it was all up in the air and chaotic since we didn't know how bad it would get. First of all en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicksand_(La_Roux_song)Single by La Roux from the album La Roux Released 15 December 2008That song was all over the radio, maybe you didn't have the radio on then nor saw the video on MTV in the morning in January 2009. And yes a song can still be mainstream outside of 100 if the radio is playing it, that is what mainstream was during that time. Lets listen to a few Red One songs from 2009, 2010, 2011,2012 Ok lets go, none of these sound like Timbaland.
You can spin it how ever you wan't to make it fit your narrative but it's incorrect and revisionist history.
20092010 20112012Wrong wrong wrong,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession"The Great Recession had a significant economic and political impact on the United States. While the recession technically lasted from December 2007 – June 2009 (the nominal GDP trough), many important economic variables did not regain pre-recession (November or Q4 2007) levels until 2011–2016"The after effects were actually worse than the pre 2009 quake. Terrible take once again.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 23, 2022 6:14:01 GMT 10
>I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG!!!!111 >Ignores comparison which proves that RedOnes sound was not the typical early 10s club sound but rather a precursor which was a mix of both 00s timbaland style and the early 10s club electro sound Ok. >Be it as it may Quicksand from LaRoux charted in December 2008 and was on the radio. That is fine if you didn't hear that one either but everyone else did. >"Quicksand" is a song by English synth-pop duo La Roux from their eponymous debut studio album (2009). Written and produced by Elly Jackson and Ben Langmaid, the song was released as the album's lead single on 15 December 2008 by Kitsuné.[1] It peaked at number 153 on the UK Singles Chart upon limited release.[2] When re-released on 23 November 2009, the single re-entered the chart at number 129. So charting outside the top 100 passes as mainstream? I learn something new every day. >The peak of the recession wasn't felt until 2009 and 2010 and 2011 and some of 2012No it wasn't. Objectively wrong again. imgbb.com/0cP8Z25Early-Mid 2009 was the peak of the recession and in June it ended. Late 2009 was the beginning of the recovery so it makes sense for that to be the start of the new era. Yes the economy was in shambles, that's because late 2009 as well as the early 10s was suffering from the aftereffects. It was nowhere as bad as it was when it was actually happening and it was more consistent. It was a consistently slow but gradual recovery, in late 2008 and 2009 it was all up in the air and chaotic since we didn't know how bad it would get. First of all en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicksand_(La_Roux_song)Single by La Roux from the album La Roux Released 15 December 2008That song was all over the radio, maybe you didn't have the radio on then nor saw the video on MTV in the morning in January 2009. And yes a song can still be mainstream outside of 100 if the radio is playing it, that is what mainstream was during that time. Lets listen to a few Red One songs from 2009, 2010, 2011,2012 Ok lets go, none of these sound like Timbaland.
You can spin it how ever you wan't to make it fit your narrative but it's incorrect and revisionist history.
20092010 20112012Wrong wrong wrong,en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession"The Great Recession had a significant economic and political impact on the United States. While the recession technically lasted from December 2007 – June 2009 (the nominal GDP trough), many important economic variables did not regain pre-recession (November or Q4 2007) levels until 2011–2016"The after effects were actually worse than the pre 2009 quake. Terrible take once again. >And yes a song can still be mainstream outside of 100 if the radio is playing it, that is what mainstream was during that time. No it isn't, unless the hosts particularly like that song which is a rare case. And I don't remember it playing at all. Never saw it on TV or the radio. Neither did my friends or siblings. And the facts also go to show this when it can't even enter the top 100 let alone top 40 which is when a song just becomes barely mainstream. Facts don't care about your feelings. >Lets listen to a few Red One songs Sure: Now lets listen to early 10s electropop songs; Totally sounds the same. The difference is RedOne commonly uses timbaland inspired beat patterns and has more prominent drums. Early 10s electropop is a lot more synth heavy to the point where it almost just sounds like full blown EDM. >The after effects were actually worse than the pre 2009 quake I don't see how that is relevant. We were talking about the peak of the recession(2009) vs the aftermath of it, not what happened before 2009 or before late 2008.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 23, 2022 6:28:43 GMT 10
Nah you just grasping @ straws Nightmare farm, trying to talk your away out of a paper bag lol, yeah we know Timbaland inspired Red One but the songs sound different enough. Also Paparazzi is not even a song produced by RED ONE !!!  
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 23, 2022 6:31:51 GMT 10
Nah you just grasping @ straws Nightmare farm, trying to talk your away out of a paper bag lol, yeah we know Timbaland inspired Red One but the songs sound different enough. Also Paparazzi is not even a song produced by RED ONE !!!   "IIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMM RIGHHHHTTTTTTTT YOUREEEEEEE WRONGGGGGGGGG!!!111" again. It's like clockwork lol. >yeah we know Timbaland inspired Red One but the songs sound different enough. Yes but it also sounds different than the songs I mentioned that represent the early 10s. It is a mix of both, that's why. >Also Paparazzi is not even a song produced by RED ONE !!! This was and also charted high in early 2009:
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Post by John Titor on Jan 23, 2022 6:32:56 GMT 10
Nah you just grasping @ straws Nightmare farm, trying to talk your away out of a paper bag lol, yeah we know Timbaland inspired Red One but the songs sound different enough. Also Paparazzi is not even a song produced by RED ONE !!! "IIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMM RIGHHHHTTTTTTTT YOUREEEEEEE WRONGGGGGGGGG!!!111" again. It's like clockwork lol. >yeah we know Timbaland inspired Red One but the songs sound different enough. Yes but it also sounds different than the songs I mentioned that represent the early 10s. It is a mix of both, that's why. >Also Paparazzi is not even a song produced by RED ONE !!! This was and also charted high in early 2009: Sounds nothing like Timbaland, in general with any type of music you can find similarities in music structure
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 23, 2022 6:35:42 GMT 10
"IIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMM RIGHHHHTTTTTTTT YOUREEEEEEE WRONGGGGGGGGG!!!111" again. It's like clockwork lol. >yeah we know Timbaland inspired Red One but the songs sound different enough. Yes but it also sounds different than the songs I mentioned that represent the early 10s. It is a mix of both, that's why. >Also Paparazzi is not even a song produced by RED ONE !!! This was and also charted high in early 2009: Sounds nothing like Timbaland, in general with any type of music you can find similarities in music structure That sounds nothing like timbaland ? ? ? Wut Reply when you're off the shrooms.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 23, 2022 6:41:18 GMT 10
Sorry I don't do drugs, sounds nothing like Timbaland, in any kind of music you can find similarities if you look close enough.
Also Frankie Storm helped song write this ( he actually co-wrote some songs with Timbaland) that is why you think the drums are the same.
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Post by mc98 on Jan 23, 2022 6:47:11 GMT 10
Nah you just grasping @ straws Nightmare farm, trying to talk your away out of a paper bag lol, yeah we know Timbaland inspired Red One but the songs sound different enough. Also Paparazzi is not even a song produced by RED ONE !!! "IIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMM RIGHHHHTTTTTTTT YOUREEEEEEE WRONGGGGGGGGG!!!111" again. It's like clockwork lol. >yeah we know Timbaland inspired Red One but the songs sound different enough. Yes but it also sounds different than the songs I mentioned that represent the early 10s. It is a mix of both, that's why. >Also Paparazzi is not even a song produced by RED ONE !!! This was and also charted high in early 2009: That song is definitely not electropop. It's more late 00s style synth R&B that could fit in as early as 2006. Plus, it sounds very muddy not HD quality like early 10s productions.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 23, 2022 6:57:02 GMT 10
"IIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMM RIGHHHHTTTTTTTT YOUREEEEEEE WRONGGGGGGGGG!!!111" again. It's like clockwork lol. >yeah we know Timbaland inspired Red One but the songs sound different enough. Yes but it also sounds different than the songs I mentioned that represent the early 10s. It is a mix of both, that's why. >Also Paparazzi is not even a song produced by RED ONE !!! This was and also charted high in early 2009: That song is definitely not electropop. It's more late 00s style synth R&B that could fit in as early as 2006. Plus, it sounds very muddy not HD quality like early 10s productions. It isn't but it's a red one song. You're definitely right about the production levels. Late 00s and Early 10s have very different production quality.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 23, 2022 6:58:25 GMT 10
Sorry I don't do drugs, sounds nothing like Timbaland, in any kind of music you can find similarities if you look close enough. Also Frankie Storm helped song write this ( he actually co-wrote some songs with Timbaland) that is why you think the drums are the same. The vocals don't. The production does. It sounds very intricately timbaland that if it wasn't for the guy shouting the producers name throughout the song, I would think it was him.
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