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Post by 10slover on Feb 16, 2022 10:35:01 GMT 10
All music subgenres die eventually, this isn't really a prediction
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Post by 10slover on Feb 16, 2022 10:37:07 GMT 10
As much as I love the music you sent above I am afraid this is the start of the end for pop punk being on the radio lol, E-Girl/ E Boy sub culture is in jeopardy right now as well. I don’t know about you, I’m actually not really impressed with the way 2020s is turning out, lately more than ever. I don’t think ever been this bad. I’m finding the puffy shoe trend very very cringe, seems like all shoes are now looking like this, it’s looks really low effort forced corny and cheesy. Nobody in the Y2k era wore shoes that look like goofy designer sneakers that sneaker fan hipsters would wear in 2015. Im not liking the way 2020s aesthetics seem like nouveau futuristic sci-fi with Y2K vibes it feels more like a Tumblr subculture from 2010-2012, it’s that shallow, doesn’t seem practical or entirely omnipresent like the way the early 2010s were oozing with 2010sness which was felt in the time. Something feel very very off about this decade like it’s missing more than a soul, I can’t put all the blame on Covid. Even 2010 wasn’t this bad. Could it be that culture has finally stagnated? That we run out of new pop culture ideals?
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Post by al on Feb 16, 2022 11:54:11 GMT 10
I do agree with there being increased backlash considering it doesn't feel that well done overall. But I do still think there's some pandemic era stagnation continuing to go on that's slowing down trends a bit. For example, I'm not seeing much new or different shopping the spring/summer new arrivals at this time. We went into this era a bit fatigued as it was. While I do think the upheaval of all the revivals is coming, I don't think it's going to turn over to all new fresh things instantaneously. It's a slow change that's taking some time. What I do think pop punk has going for it right now is being a source of rock music when there's not a whole of it. That may sound like it would be to its detriment, and conversely it also kind of is, but there remains some level of demand for it and there are those who will take what they can get.
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Post by John Titor on Feb 16, 2022 12:25:28 GMT 10
I remember looking at a poll from r/poppunkers a while back that measures whether the subreddit was getting sick of "Travis Barker Core." The response was leaning towards 'yes' but it wasn't an outright majority. I thought that pop punk would still have some lease of life this year, even when throwing Barker out the window but, when put into context what has transpired over the last fortnight or so, I kind of agree with the original prediction (and also, to an extend, the new one). Oh I agree 100% Travis Barker is the new "How do you do fellow kids" meme now, I think the entire pop punk community has pretty much turned their back on him. Once heralded as the greatest drummer of all time now reduced to cringe.
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Post by John Titor on Feb 19, 2022 1:20:27 GMT 10
its getting worse
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Post by slashpop on Feb 19, 2022 2:05:34 GMT 10
I’m not liking the Travis and kardashian connection it’s clear signs that pop culture isn’t a good place. That’s never supposed to happen, ever!
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Post by John Titor on Feb 19, 2022 9:14:09 GMT 10
I’m not liking the Travis and kardashian connection it’s clear signs that pop culture isn’t a good place. That’s never supposed to happen, ever! The general consensus I get is that people are already turning on Travis, he just seems so cookie cutter now and just lame.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 12:45:13 GMT 10
I’m not liking the Travis and kardashian connection it’s clear signs that pop culture isn’t a good place. That’s never supposed to happen, ever! Right! The Travis and Kardashian connection is a big no no in pop culture!
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Post by slashpop on Feb 19, 2022 21:24:54 GMT 10
I’m not liking the Travis and kardashian connection it’s clear signs that pop culture isn’t a good place. That’s never supposed to happen, ever! The general consensus I get is that people are already turning on Travis, he just seems so cookie cutter now and just lame. This is Travis with transplants 2002, when music videos were music videos, and rock and punk music still had more genuine edge even if it wasn't perfect, you can just tell from the quality of the videos, The band above is transplants light rap-punk group with members from rancid, this band:
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Post by John Titor on Feb 20, 2022 3:32:22 GMT 10
The general consensus I get is that people are already turning on Travis, he just seems so cookie cutter now and just lame. This is Travis with transplants 2002, when music videos were music videos, and rock and punk music still had more genuine edge even if it wasn't perfect, you can just tell from the quality of the videos, The band above is transplants light rap-punk group with members from rancid, this band: Travis so cringe now, back then he was actually punk, now he is just lame AF, You would never see this with TOM
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Post by slashpop on Feb 20, 2022 18:50:17 GMT 10
I'm still having a hard time believing that pop-punk is already getting backlash in 2022. How can we reach the late 2006 to 2009 barrier with pop-punk music so quickly? I'm disappointed. I feel like potential existed with that trend. I think in the 2000s, it was between late 2006 and 2009 that people got sick of 2000s pop-punk, unsure. I'm baffled. This makes no sense. I feel like the early 2020s wave of pop-punk just properly started in Q2 2021, after being underground from Q4 2018 through Q1 2021. I hoped this new incarnation of pop-punk would last us through 2022. If early 2020s pop-punk really dies by 2023, then I hope a better and more cohesive rock culture replaces it. I'd really like for psychedelic rock to come or rock music inspired from between the 1960s through the 1990s. What a shame that pop-punk isn't being fully embraced. The 2020s could really be the first full fragmented decade. I think this revival of 3rd wave pop oriented pop punk was very light, poppy and soft from the start in the late 2010s, even the style of pop punk it is inspired by were the more commercial 2000s hits and groups compared to raw and more heavier 90s to very early 2000s wave of pop punk. Outside of some popularity and being an underground thing in 18-2019, I think the genre has only been more noticeable and properly mainstream around mid 2021, and was starting to pick up around 2020/21. Even if its already bound to get more commercial or cheesy, as its already entering cringe/sellout mode, it will be gradual. I would think it has enough steam to last until 2023-2023 or 2025/26, even as a very watered cringe music, these last decades have proved that can happen with genres even if they are overplayed, annoying, watered down or not genuine, rock genres like this usually have the capacity to stick around around until they are at maximum cringe and exhaustion levels which is usually anywhere from 5-7+ years years. Pop punk was popular in the mainstream from around 1994 to 2010, even when if it waned and wasn't consistently of the same originality at different points. In the 80s/early 90s (mid 80s-93/early 94) it was mostly underground thing that was was closer in spirit to alternative rock and hardcore punk, with only a few singles in the mainstream and many people argued in the mid 90s green day in 1994 ruined punk/pop punk with an album and image that seemed too radio friendly and were the biggest sellouts, almost like a boyband. Dead Milkman 1988: Green Day 1989:
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Post by John Titor on Feb 21, 2022 0:42:22 GMT 10
All music subgenres die eventually, this isn't really a prediction not all genres die this fast
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Post by John Titor on Feb 21, 2022 0:50:02 GMT 10
I'm still having a hard time believing that pop-punk is already getting backlash in 2022. How can we reach the late 2006 to 2009 barrier with pop-punk music so quickly? I'm disappointed. I feel like potential existed with that trend. I think in the 2000s, it was between late 2006 and 2009 that people got sick of 2000s pop-punk, unsure. I'm baffled. This makes no sense. I feel like the early 2020s wave of pop-punk just properly started in Q2 2021, after being underground from Q4 2018 through Q1 2021. I hoped this new incarnation of pop-punk would last us through 2022. If early 2020s pop-punk really dies by 2023, then I hope a better and more cohesive rock culture replaces it. I'd really like for psychedelic rock to come or rock music inspired from between the 1960s through the 1990s. What a shame that pop-punk isn't being fully embraced. The 2020s could really be the first full fragmented decade. had not Travis Barker go in cringe mode with Mcdonald's commercial music maybe it would have seen as cooler, think of it like this, can you really get down to a song after you heard it in an ad for Liberty mutual ? Prob not. The When we were Young festival looks like one of those Boomer hits of the 70s commercials. In a span of 3 1/2 we exhausted 8 years worth of pop punk culture lol Oh and it's getting worse every day, you should see what I am seeing being written on Discord lol, Blink 182 was this respected band and now is being tossed to the bushes as garbage lol
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Post by slashpop on Feb 21, 2022 1:03:45 GMT 10
I'm still having a hard time believing that pop-punk is already getting backlash in 2022. How can we reach the late 2006 to 2009 barrier with pop-punk music so quickly? I'm disappointed. I feel like potential existed with that trend. I think in the 2000s, it was between late 2006 and 2009 that people got sick of 2000s pop-punk, unsure. I'm baffled. This makes no sense. I feel like the early 2020s wave of pop-punk just properly started in Q2 2021, after being underground from Q4 2018 through Q1 2021. I hoped this new incarnation of pop-punk would last us through 2022. If early 2020s pop-punk really dies by 2023, then I hope a better and more cohesive rock culture replaces it. I'd really like for psychedelic rock to come or rock music inspired from between the 1960s through the 1990s. What a shame that pop-punk isn't being fully embraced. The 2020s could really be the first full fragmented decade. had not Travis Barker go in cringe mode with Mcdonald's commercial music maybe it would have seen as cooler, think of it like this, can you really get down to a song after you heard it in an ad for Liberty mutual ? Prob not. The When we were Young festival looks like one of those Boomer hits of the 70s commercials. In a span of 3 1/2 we exhausted 8 years worth of pop punk culture lol Oh and it's getting worse every day, you should see what I am seeing being written on Discord lol, Blink 182 was this respected band and now is being tossed to the bushes as garbage lol The end of humanity:
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Post by 10slover on Feb 21, 2022 3:18:14 GMT 10
All music subgenres die eventually, this isn't really a prediction not all genres die this fast Except pop rock isn't dying? The so called "backlash" hasn't really started yet Hell, the genre is barely back, it's not going anywhere right now
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