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Post by astropoug on Apr 2, 2022 6:37:00 GMT 10
If there's one thing I can't stand about this modern era, it's how preachy everything has gotten. You can't go anywhere without hearing messages about racism, misogyny, veganism, transphobia, and all kinds of political propaganda nonsense.
Although most preachiness nowadays is left-wing, in the 80s, it was also a preachy decade, but from a more right-wing angle. There were so many messages about nuclear war, not doing drugs, all the PSAs at the end of cartoons, etc.
And the mid-2000s, whilst it might seem like a nihilistic and libertarian era, still had its fair share of preachiness with movies like Supersize Me and Fahrenheit 9/11, not to mention all the anti-Bush sentiment. And prior to that, there was tons of patriotism in pop culture.
I'm talking about something where politics was kept out of pop culture, and "moralism" and "human rights" wasn't talked about regularly, but people instead focused on pop culture and having fun.
Two eras that come to mind as relatively apolitical and unpreachy are the late 90s and early 2010s. I feel like the relatively apolitical-ness of the late 90s was a backlash against the preachiness of 80s and early 90s culture. Cartoons no longer had PSAs and instead were much darker and more experimental. Movies were escapist: lots of sci-fi and horror stuff was popular back then. Music was always very goofy and lighthearted and overall fun. And as for the early 2010s, you can pretty much say the same. There wasn't really anti-Obama satire the same way there was anti-Bush or anti-Trump satire. Movies were VERY silly and escapist back then. Music was pretty much like late 90s music. It seemed serious issues weren't being talked about as much...and I fucking miss that.
Obviously you did have things like Columbine in the late 90s and Occupy Wall Street and Kony in the early 2010s, but otherwise, very little culture was politicized.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 2, 2022 6:39:19 GMT 10
90s. In the 2000s people were overly patriotic. Early 10s was apolitical compared to the rest of the decade but you still had some left wing preachiness.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 2, 2022 6:50:11 GMT 10
90s. In the 2000s people were overly patriotic. Early 10s was apolitical compared to the rest of the decade but you still had some left wing preachiness. I actually think the late 2000s was more preachy than the early 2010s. Looking back, there was a lot of environmentalist messages being pushed back then, especially in movies like Happy Feet. I think people in the mid-late 90s were just downright apathetic towards everything. I miss that Gen-X/early millennial attitude. I relate to Daria honestly. Misanthropic, sarcastic, introverted, apathetic, tired of the world. That's pretty much me.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 2, 2022 6:51:11 GMT 10
90s. In the 2000s people were overly patriotic. Early 10s was apolitical compared to the rest of the decade but you still had some left wing preachiness. I actually think the late 2000s was more preachy than the early 2010s. Looking back, there was a lot of environmentalist messages being pushed back then, especially in movies like Happy Feet. I think people in the mid-late 90s were just downright apathetic towards everything. I miss that Gen-X/early millennial attitude. I relate to Daria honestly. Misanthropic, sarcastic, introverted, apathetic, tired of the world. That's pretty much me. In the early 10s you had occupy wall street and some other protests.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 2, 2022 6:54:15 GMT 10
I actually think the late 2000s was more preachy than the early 2010s. Looking back, there was a lot of environmentalist messages being pushed back then, especially in movies like Happy Feet. I think people in the mid-late 90s were just downright apathetic towards everything. I miss that Gen-X/early millennial attitude. I relate to Daria honestly. Misanthropic, sarcastic, introverted, apathetic, tired of the world. That's pretty much me. In the early 10s you had occupy wall street and some other protests. Honestly stuff like income inequality being protested against doesn't really bother me. It's something I myself believe is a genuine issue in the world. I'm more against identity politics/in-your-face environmentalism more than anything. And the early 90s were still very preachy, you had Captain Planet and anti-drug PSAs. Mid-late 90s is when the amazing backlash happened against all that shit.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 2, 2022 7:44:25 GMT 10
Mid 90s as someone who was there
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Post by Cassie on Apr 2, 2022 8:12:58 GMT 10
Probably the mid-late 90s, though the early 2010s are a relatively close second.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 2, 2022 9:49:02 GMT 10
On another note, I personally prefer the late 90s to the early 2010s. Despite their similarities, I feel like the early 2010s is a very shallow era. Lots of obnoxious YOLO/SWAG culture with really shitty movies and music (except for 2010 in the former case). Late 90s on the other hand is a prime example that you can have a genuinely intellectual era WITHOUT resorting to political posturing. There was genuine excitement for technology (especially the internet), video games were evolving extremely rapidly, experimental, and produced some of the greatest games of all time, and we had fantastic films like The Matrix, The Sixth Sense, and The Truman Show that never went all political and shit, but were still thought-provoking. Likewise, you had games like Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy VII that were popular.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I realize just how sad I am that I missed out on this era. Now I understand how SharksFan99 feels.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 2, 2022 10:26:30 GMT 10
On another note, I personally prefer the late 90s to the early 2010s. Despite their similarities, I feel like the early 2010s is a very shallow era. Lots of obnoxious YOLO/SWAG culture with really shitty movies and music (except for 2010 in the former case). Late 90s on the other hand is a prime example that you can have a genuinely intellectual era WITHOUT resorting to political posturing. There was genuine excitement for technology (especially the internet), video games were evolving extremely rapidly, experimental, and produced some of the greatest games of all time, and we had fantastic films like The Matrix, The Sixth Sense, and The Truman Show that never went all political and shit, but were still thought-provoking. Likewise, you had games like Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy VII that were popular. Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I realize just how sad I am that I missed out on this era. Now I understand how SharksFan99 feels. I'm still trying to figure out why that era is so beloved. It was good for me because of personal reasons but the actual pop culture was atrocious.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 2, 2022 10:34:03 GMT 10
On another note, I personally prefer the late 90s to the early 2010s. Despite their similarities, I feel like the early 2010s is a very shallow era. Lots of obnoxious YOLO/SWAG culture with really shitty movies and music (except for 2010 in the former case). Late 90s on the other hand is a prime example that you can have a genuinely intellectual era WITHOUT resorting to political posturing. There was genuine excitement for technology (especially the internet), video games were evolving extremely rapidly, experimental, and produced some of the greatest games of all time, and we had fantastic films like The Matrix, The Sixth Sense, and The Truman Show that never went all political and shit, but were still thought-provoking. Likewise, you had games like Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy VII that were popular. Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I realize just how sad I am that I missed out on this era. Now I understand how SharksFan99 feels. I'm still trying to figure out why that era is so beloved. It was good for me because of personal reasons but the actual pop culture was atrocious. I think people like it because it's said to be a very carefree and progressive era. But IMO, I think the late 90s has a LOT more to offer culturally. It's a relatively lighthearted and carefree era, that's still open-minded and intellectual. It's also not WHOLESOME, it's not like the first half of the 2010s that had songs like Happy and Best Day of My Life. There was still a degree of edginess to it that never went overboard like the mid-00s admittedly did.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 2, 2022 11:34:29 GMT 10
On another note, I personally prefer the late 90s to the early 2010s. Despite their similarities, I feel like the early 2010s is a very shallow era. Lots of obnoxious YOLO/SWAG culture with really shitty movies and music (except for 2010 in the former case). Late 90s on the other hand is a prime example that you can have a genuinely intellectual era WITHOUT resorting to political posturing. There was genuine excitement for technology (especially the internet), video games were evolving extremely rapidly, experimental, and produced some of the greatest games of all time, and we had fantastic films like The Matrix, The Sixth Sense, and The Truman Show that never went all political and shit, but were still thought-provoking. Likewise, you had games like Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy VII that were popular. Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I realize just how sad I am that I missed out on this era. Now I understand how SharksFan99 feels. Living in the late 90s felt exciting tbh, 1997 being the most exciting and 1999 being the second most exciting, you have to remember for many many many years we were living in a "yeah whatever" grunge slacker atmosphere. It was needed so much and it's impact was felt as soon as Jan 1997 hit !
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Post by John Titor on Apr 2, 2022 11:35:16 GMT 10
On another note, I personally prefer the late 90s to the early 2010s. Despite their similarities, I feel like the early 2010s is a very shallow era. Lots of obnoxious YOLO/SWAG culture with really shitty movies and music (except for 2010 in the former case). Late 90s on the other hand is a prime example that you can have a genuinely intellectual era WITHOUT resorting to political posturing. There was genuine excitement for technology (especially the internet), video games were evolving extremely rapidly, experimental, and produced some of the greatest games of all time, and we had fantastic films like The Matrix, The Sixth Sense, and The Truman Show that never went all political and shit, but were still thought-provoking. Likewise, you had games like Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy VII that were popular. Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I realize just how sad I am that I missed out on this era. Now I understand how SharksFan99 feels. I'm still trying to figure out why that era is so beloved. It was good for me because of personal reasons but the actual pop culture was atrocious. it's because at the time we were bombarded with grunge slacker culture, the change was needed, living in it felt surreal.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 2, 2022 11:48:41 GMT 10
I'm still trying to figure out why that era is so beloved. It was good for me because of personal reasons but the actual pop culture was atrocious. it's because at the time we were bombarded with grunge slacker culture, the change was needed, living in it felt surreal. He's talking about the early 2010s, not the late 90s. I think he also likes the late 90s.
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Post by pumpkin14 on Apr 2, 2022 17:00:52 GMT 10
most of the 90s and the early 10s weren’t as preachy as some other eras. the 00s and 80s were preachy in a conservative way and the mid-late 10s were preachy in a liberal way
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Post by astropoug on Apr 2, 2022 17:16:56 GMT 10
most of the 90s and the early 10s weren’t as preachy as some other eras. the 00s and 80s were preachy in a conservative way and the mid-late 10s were preachy in a liberal way The 2000s did also have some left-wing preachiness too though, like Fahrenheit 9/11, Green Day’s American Idiot album, and overall lots of anti-Bush satire. Environmentalism was also big in the late 00s. Environmentalism was very big in the early 90s, as demonstrated with things like Captain Planet, and you still had lots of anti-drug PSAs. The mid and especially late 90s weren’t preachy.
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