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Post by 10slover on May 19, 2022 7:51:59 GMT 10
People will ALWAYS focus of the pop culture more than anything, unless there's a huge event like covid, 9/11 or the great depression. And the culture wars don't fit that criteria.
if people can see the iraq war oil crisis-ridden years of the 2000s as "innocent" then they'll definitely see 2017 as innocent too
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2022 13:35:09 GMT 10
How can 2017 not be looked at as an innocent year when you had songs like these in the charts?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 10:22:11 GMT 10
Don't forget about these songs too
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Post by astropoug on Jun 3, 2022 10:25:47 GMT 10
Chainsmokers was big in 2016 too, and that wasn't an innocent year either.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 11:20:40 GMT 10
Can't leave this song out either
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 11:20:58 GMT 10
Chainsmokers was big in 2016 too, and that wasn't an innocent year either. Why? Because some celebrities died?
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Post by 10slover on Jun 3, 2022 21:57:49 GMT 10
God damnit that Chainsmokers-coldplay song is making me so Nostalgic for 2017
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Post by al on Jun 4, 2022 0:03:34 GMT 10
I guess I wouldn't pick "innocent" as the descriptor, but it was a time where there was quite a bit of childlike things in pop culture. As we've discussed in some other threads, you had poop, rainbows, slime, unicorns, etc., though that's not necessarily specific to 2017. I think the year might possibly qualify for peak "Disney adult" year however, it's also the year Jojo bows took off. Graphic t's/sneakers were trendy. Otherwise I would associate the hype for kid/family entertainment, such as Star Wars/Marvel and cartoons, as an era thing that was going strong in 2017. There were some darker or more mature elements creeping in, but I wouldn't say that they felt dominant yet.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jun 4, 2022 14:44:50 GMT 10
2015 is. 2016 was the start of the current political division and edgier internet culture.
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Post by astropoug on Jun 4, 2022 15:14:12 GMT 10
2015 is. 2016 was the start of the current political division and edgier internet culture. For me it's 2014 since that was when Gamergate and the Ferguson riots occurred. However, I definitely agree that 2016 is when the internet REALLY became chaotic. It was a very toxic year to be on the internet for certain. I don't really consider 2014-2015 to be that innocent either, though certainly more so than later years. Now 2010-2013, with certain exceptions (SOPA/PIPA), that, I would say, was actually an innocent time.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jun 4, 2022 15:18:51 GMT 10
2015 is. 2016 was the start of the current political division and edgier internet culture. For me it's 2014 since that was when Gamergate and the Ferguson riots occurred. However, I definitely agree that 2016 is when the internet REALLY became chaotic. It was a very toxic year to be on the internet for certain. I don't really consider 2014-2015 to be that innocent either, though certainly more so than later years. Now 2010-2013, with certain exceptions (SOPA/PIPA), that, I would say, was actually an innocent time. Nah the stuff with gamergate was merely a tiny spark whereas shortly after trump announced his presidential bid it turned into a proper flame. I remember back in 2014 seeing gamergate youtubers protesting, it was nowhere near as toxic as it has gotten since 2016. I know youtubers who were left wing even back in 2014-2015 when supporting gamergate, by the end of 2016 he became an alt right extremist. 2014 can be considered the root of the political division nowadays but not when it became the norm.
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Post by astropoug on Jun 4, 2022 15:26:44 GMT 10
For me it's 2014 since that was when Gamergate and the Ferguson riots occurred. However, I definitely agree that 2016 is when the internet REALLY became chaotic. It was a very toxic year to be on the internet for certain. I don't really consider 2014-2015 to be that innocent either, though certainly more so than later years. Now 2010-2013, with certain exceptions (SOPA/PIPA), that, I would say, was actually an innocent time. Nah the stuff with gamergate was merely a tiny spark whereas shortly after trump announced his presidential bid it turned into a proper flame. I remember back in 2014 seeing gamergate youtubers protesting, it was nowhere near as toxic as it has gotten since 2016. I know youtubers who were left wing even back in 2014-2015 when supporting gamergate, by the end of 2016 he became an alt right extremist. 2014 can be considered the root of the political division nowadays but not when it became the norm. Things did become more polarized in 2016, I will agree with that. However, it's not as if Gamergate was this small thing. After it happened, a lot of gaming channels that previously only ever talked about video games suddenly began talking about feminism and Anita Sarkessian and Kotaku and all this shit. Whereas before, you NEVER saw this stuff. The internet was far more apolitical back then. I will say this, you could still largely avoid internet drama and politics on the internet in 2014-2015. MLG and Vine memes of the time were completely apolitical. You COULD NOT, however, avoid it from 2016 onwards.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jun 4, 2022 15:29:09 GMT 10
Nah the stuff with gamergate was merely a tiny spark whereas shortly after trump announced his presidential bid it turned into a proper flame. I remember back in 2014 seeing gamergate youtubers protesting, it was nowhere near as toxic as it has gotten since 2016. I know youtubers who were left wing even back in 2014-2015 when supporting gamergate, by the end of 2016 he became an alt right extremist. 2014 can be considered the root of the political division nowadays but not when it became the norm. Things did become more polarized in 2016, I will agree with that. However, it's not as if Gamergate was this small thing. After it happened, a lot of gaming channels that previously only ever talked about video games suddenly began talking about feminism and Anita Sarkessian and Kotaku and all this shit. Whereas before, you NEVER saw this stuff. The internet was far more apolitical back then. I will say this, you could still largely avoid internet drama and politics on the internet in 2014-2015. MLG and Vine memes of the time were completely apolitical. You COULD NOT, however, avoid it from 2016 onwards. You COULD NOT, however, avoid it from 2016 onwards. That's why 2016 is the shift year. It permeated into everything from then on.
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Post by astropoug on Jun 4, 2022 15:29:54 GMT 10
I honestly feel as though mid 2014-2015 internet culture-wise was sort of its own mini-era, and then 2016-mid 2018 was another era.
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Post by astropoug on Jun 4, 2022 15:32:13 GMT 10
Things did become more polarized in 2016, I will agree with that. However, it's not as if Gamergate was this small thing. After it happened, a lot of gaming channels that previously only ever talked about video games suddenly began talking about feminism and Anita Sarkessian and Kotaku and all this shit. Whereas before, you NEVER saw this stuff. The internet was far more apolitical back then. I will say this, you could still largely avoid internet drama and politics on the internet in 2014-2015. MLG and Vine memes of the time were completely apolitical. You COULD NOT, however, avoid it from 2016 onwards. You COULD NOT, however, avoid it from 2016 onwards. That's why 2016 is the shift year. It permeated into everything from then on. You know what? I agree, because 2016 is when many YouTubers started getting into scandals. The MeToo movement might've gone mainstream in late 2017, but I remember there were already YouTubers being accused of sexual harassment and pedophilia in 2016.
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