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Post by nightmarefarm on Jul 7, 2022 3:58:57 GMT 10
First half still had GOT, Avengers and TikTok hadn't overthrown Instagram. Mumble rap was arguably at its peak too. Usually core ends way earlier but i'd make an exception with the 2010s where 2019 feels consistent with the decades identity.
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Post by astropoug on Jul 7, 2022 6:18:15 GMT 10
I did make this case earlier that whilst TikTok did come out and become popular in late 2018, it was still seen as just another social media platform rather than THE thing that everybody’s using.
Another important thing is that other streaming platforms such as Disney+ and HBO Max hadn’t come out yet.
Still, I don’t know if I’d go so far as to call it core 2010s. It’s definitely part of the 2010s zeitgeist, but it already feels very much detached from 2014/2015 already.
I personally regard 2012-2016 as the core 2010s.
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Post by John Titor on Jul 7, 2022 8:14:28 GMT 10
I did make this case earlier that whilst TikTok did come out and become popular in late 2018, it was still seen as just another social media platform rather than THE thing that everybody’s using. Another important thing is that other streaming platforms such as Disney+ and HBO Max hadn’t come out yet. Still, I don’t know if I’d go so far as to call it core 2010s. It’s definitely part of the 2010s zeitgeist, but it already feels very much detached from 2014/2015 already. I personally regard 2012-2016 as the core 2010s. the first 6 months of 2019 was pretty much the 2010s transitioning out of the 2010s, it did feel very removed from 2014 as u said
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Post by astropoug on Jul 7, 2022 8:25:21 GMT 10
I did make this case earlier that whilst TikTok did come out and become popular in late 2018, it was still seen as just another social media platform rather than THE thing that everybody’s using. Another important thing is that other streaming platforms such as Disney+ and HBO Max hadn’t come out yet. Still, I don’t know if I’d go so far as to call it core 2010s. It’s definitely part of the 2010s zeitgeist, but it already feels very much detached from 2014/2015 already. I personally regard 2012-2016 as the core 2010s. the first 6 months of 2019 was pretty much the 2010s transitioning out of the 2010s, it did feel very removed from 2014 as u said Very true. 2014 to me was defined quite heavily by indie culture and progressivism. Hipsters, indie games, Tumblr, feminism, BuzzFeed, not to mention things like the obsession with hashtags, twerking, selfies, EDM, internet challenges, etc. 2019 on the other hand was defined by the rise of the whole TikTok/VSCO/e-boy culture that would define the 2020s, not to mention things like battle Royale games, the Nintendo Switch, hypebeast culture, mumble rap/trap, doomer and wojak memes, etc.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jul 7, 2022 10:18:39 GMT 10
the first 6 months of 2019 was pretty much the 2010s transitioning out of the 2010s, it did feel very removed from 2014 as u said Very true. 2014 to me was defined quite heavily by indie culture and progressivism. Hipsters, indie games, Tumblr, feminism, BuzzFeed, not to mention things like the obsession with hashtags, twerking, selfies, EDM, internet challenges, etc. 2019 on the other hand was defined by the rise of the whole TikTok/VSCO/e-boy culture that would define the 2020s, not to mention things like battle Royale games, the Nintendo Switch, hypebeast culture, mumble rap/trap, doomer and wojak memes, etc. TikTok was still overshadowed by Instagram, BR games was really a late 10s thing, the switch existed in 2017/2018 as did mumble rap. There were also wojak memes in the late 10s. Core 2010s I would say is Mid 2013 - Mid 2019. I used to consider 2011 and 2012 part of it but in retrospect it still had an undeveloped 10s feeling. The late 10s describe this decade much better than the early 10s, there were still some people who didn't have smartphones back then and the only social media people used were facebook and twitter.
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Post by astropoug on Jul 7, 2022 10:36:43 GMT 10
Very true. 2014 to me was defined quite heavily by indie culture and progressivism. Hipsters, indie games, Tumblr, feminism, BuzzFeed, not to mention things like the obsession with hashtags, twerking, selfies, EDM, internet challenges, etc. 2019 on the other hand was defined by the rise of the whole TikTok/VSCO/e-boy culture that would define the 2020s, not to mention things like battle Royale games, the Nintendo Switch, hypebeast culture, mumble rap/trap, doomer and wojak memes, etc. TikTok was still overshadowed by Instagram, BR games was really a late 10s thing, the switch existed in 2017/2018 as did mumble rap. There were also wojak memes in the late 10s. Core 2010s I would say is Mid 2013 - Mid 2019. I used to consider 2011 and 2012 part of it but in retrospect it still had an undeveloped 10s feeling. The late 10s describe this decade much better than the early 10s, there were still some people who didn't have smartphones back then and the only social media people used were facebook and twitter. I do agree the 2010s really came into its own in 2013, with people using emojis, hashtags, PewDiePie becoming the biggest YouTuber, the YouTube redesign, Instagram, Snapchat, and Vine all exploding, skeuomorphism dying off, 8th gen consoles like the PS4 and Xbox One coming out, and streaming services like Netflix and Spotify taking off. That said, I also think the 2010s were already starting to shift by 2017. Nintendo was no longer in its Wii U era rut, 4K was starting to take off, battle royale games were becoming more popular, Trump became president, Jake and Logan Paul blew up, as did hypebeast culture (a backlash against core 2010s hipster culture), and mumble rap started to displace EDM in popularity. 2013-2016 in my opinion was really the prime 2010s IMHO (with 2015 being the peak).
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jul 7, 2022 10:52:17 GMT 10
TikTok was still overshadowed by Instagram, BR games was really a late 10s thing, the switch existed in 2017/2018 as did mumble rap. There were also wojak memes in the late 10s. Core 2010s I would say is Mid 2013 - Mid 2019. I used to consider 2011 and 2012 part of it but in retrospect it still had an undeveloped 10s feeling. The late 10s describe this decade much better than the early 10s, there were still some people who didn't have smartphones back then and the only social media people used were facebook and twitter. I do agree the 2010s really came into its own in 2013, with people using emojis, hashtags, PewDiePie becoming the biggest YouTuber, the YouTube redesign, Instagram, Snapchat, and Vine all exploding, skeuomorphism dying off, 8th gen consoles like the PS4 and Xbox One coming out, and streaming services like Netflix and Spotify taking off. That said, I also think the 2010s were already starting to shift by 2017. Nintendo was no longer in its Wii U era rut, 4K was starting to take off, battle royale games were becoming more popular, Trump became president, Jake and Logan Paul blew up, as did hypebeast culture (a backlash against core 2010s hipster culture), and mumble rap started to displace EDM in popularity. 2013-2016 in my opinion was really the prime 2010s IMHO (with 2015 being the peak). In my opinion 2013-2016 is the mid 10s but not the core 10s. 2017 up to like July 2019 still feels strongly 2010s, just a different brand of 2010s than the Obama years. I didn't really feel any big shift that removed us from the core zeitgeist in the late 10s. There were things like fortnite blowing up and mumble rap as well but they are more 10s than 20s.
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Post by astropoug on Jul 7, 2022 10:56:32 GMT 10
I do agree the 2010s really came into its own in 2013, with people using emojis, hashtags, PewDiePie becoming the biggest YouTuber, the YouTube redesign, Instagram, Snapchat, and Vine all exploding, skeuomorphism dying off, 8th gen consoles like the PS4 and Xbox One coming out, and streaming services like Netflix and Spotify taking off. That said, I also think the 2010s were already starting to shift by 2017. Nintendo was no longer in its Wii U era rut, 4K was starting to take off, battle royale games were becoming more popular, Trump became president, Jake and Logan Paul blew up, as did hypebeast culture (a backlash against core 2010s hipster culture), and mumble rap started to displace EDM in popularity. 2013-2016 in my opinion was really the prime 2010s IMHO (with 2015 being the peak). 2013-2016 is the mid 10s but not the core 10s if you ask me. 2017 up to like July 2019 still feels strongly 2010s, just a different brand of 2010s than the Obama years. I didn't really feel any big shift that removed us from the core zeitgeist in the late 10s. There were things like fortnite blowing up and mumble rap as well but they are more 10s than 20s. They were big shifts IMO, seeing as how mumble rap was what ended the EDM boom that defined the 2010s (as is the consensus on this forum), and, beyond battle Royale games taking off, there was also the release of the Nintendo Switch (a HUGE shift as a Nintendo fan, as I could finally admit to liking Nintendo in public again), and the rise of the Epic Games Store, the first real competitor to Steam to emerge (who dominated PC digital distribution throughout the 2010s).
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jul 7, 2022 11:00:57 GMT 10
2013-2016 is the mid 10s but not the core 10s if you ask me. 2017 up to like July 2019 still feels strongly 2010s, just a different brand of 2010s than the Obama years. I didn't really feel any big shift that removed us from the core zeitgeist in the late 10s. There were things like fortnite blowing up and mumble rap as well but they are more 10s than 20s. They were big shifts IMO, seeing as how mumble rap was what ended the EDM boom that defined the 2010s (as is the consensus on this forum), and, beyond battle Royale games taking off, there was also the release of the Nintendo Switch (a HUGE shift as a Nintendo fan, as I could finally admit to liking Nintendo in public again), and the rise of the Epic Games Store, the first real competitor to Steam to emerge (who dominated PC digital distribution throughout the 2010s). Mumble rap and Fortnite are a 2010s thing, albeit part of the late 10s. The Switch is really half late 10s and half early 20s assuming Nintendo doesn't milk it out until like 2025. And by big shift I mean things like Trump becoming president or Smartphones becoming ubiquitous. Music changes like every year or every couple of years.
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Post by crystalmetheny0428 on Jul 7, 2022 14:29:40 GMT 10
Very true. 2014 to me was defined quite heavily by indie culture and progressivism. Hipsters, indie games, Tumblr, feminism, BuzzFeed, not to mention things like the obsession with hashtags, twerking, selfies, EDM, internet challenges, etc. 2019 on the other hand was defined by the rise of the whole TikTok/VSCO/e-boy culture that would define the 2020s, not to mention things like battle Royale games, the Nintendo Switch, hypebeast culture, mumble rap/trap, doomer and wojak memes, etc. TikTok was still overshadowed by Instagram, BR games was really a late 10s thing, the switch existed in 2017/2018 as did mumble rap. There were also wojak memes in the late 10s. Core 2010s I would say is Mid 2013 - Mid 2019. I used to consider 2011 and 2012 part of it but in retrospect it still had an undeveloped 10s feeling. The late 10s describe this decade much better than the early 10s, there were still some people who didn't have smartphones back then and the only social media people used were facebook and twitter. 2019 in no way felt like 2013
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Post by astropoug on Jul 7, 2022 14:40:28 GMT 10
TikTok was still overshadowed by Instagram, BR games was really a late 10s thing, the switch existed in 2017/2018 as did mumble rap. There were also wojak memes in the late 10s. Core 2010s I would say is Mid 2013 - Mid 2019. I used to consider 2011 and 2012 part of it but in retrospect it still had an undeveloped 10s feeling. The late 10s describe this decade much better than the early 10s, there were still some people who didn't have smartphones back then and the only social media people used were facebook and twitter. 2019 in no way felt like 2013 100% agreed Vine, hashtags, bronies, hipsters, Windows 7 & 8, skeuomorphic iOS, Minecraft, Smosh, EDM (including Avicii, who was dead in 2019), and Tumblr is such a huge contrast from TikTok, wojaks, Big Mouth, hypebeast culture, Windows 10, flat design everywhere, Fortnite, Mr Beast, mumble rap, and VSCO.
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Post by crystalmetheny0428 on Jul 7, 2022 14:43:29 GMT 10
2019 in no way felt like 2013 100% agreed Vine, hashtags, bronies, hipsters, Windows 7 & 8, skeuomorphic iOS, Minecraft, Smosh, EDM (including Avicii, who was dead in 2019), and Tumblr is such a huge contrast from TikTok, wojaks, Big Mouth, hypebeast culture, Windows 10, flat design everywhere, Fortnite, Mr Beast, mumble rap, and VSCO. if nightmare’s argument is that both years had social media and cell phones then you might as well say 2022 is core 2010’s as well
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jul 7, 2022 14:58:16 GMT 10
TikTok was still overshadowed by Instagram, BR games was really a late 10s thing, the switch existed in 2017/2018 as did mumble rap. There were also wojak memes in the late 10s. Core 2010s I would say is Mid 2013 - Mid 2019. I used to consider 2011 and 2012 part of it but in retrospect it still had an undeveloped 10s feeling. The late 10s describe this decade much better than the early 10s, there were still some people who didn't have smartphones back then and the only social media people used were facebook and twitter. 2019 in no way felt like 2013 No but you're cherrypicking the two ends of the core spectrum
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Post by crystalmetheny0428 on Jul 7, 2022 14:58:49 GMT 10
2019 in no way felt like 2013 No but you're cherrypicking the two ends of the core spectrum why group them together if they have nothing in common
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Post by astropoug on Jul 7, 2022 14:59:43 GMT 10
100% agreed Vine, hashtags, bronies, hipsters, Windows 7 & 8, skeuomorphic iOS, Minecraft, Smosh, EDM (including Avicii, who was dead in 2019), and Tumblr is such a huge contrast from TikTok, wojaks, Big Mouth, hypebeast culture, Windows 10, flat design everywhere, Fortnite, Mr Beast, mumble rap, and VSCO. if nightmare’s argument is that both years had social media and cell phones then you might as well say 2022 is core 2010’s as well Reminder that this is what iOS looked like for much of 2013 
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