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Post by RockyMountainExtreme on Jan 29, 2018 13:33:06 GMT 10
Right off the bat, the fact that the 1960s is equally as far back in time from the 2000s as they are forward in time from the 1920s may be shocking, and this question at first thought may seem like it has an obvious answer.
Both the 2000s and 1960s are post-WW2 decades. Both decades had Television dominate family lives. Rock music was a dominant music genre in both decades as well, and rock songs from both decades can be enjoyed back to back and not feel out of place from each other, despite being 40 years apart. The 1920s on the other hand feels completely antiquated by comparison. It was a pre-WW2 decade that predates Television, analog sound, Robert Johnson's blues revolution (the precursor to rock music), and it wasn't until the late part of that decade when things such as talking movies and sliced bread, two things taken for granted for many decades, came out.
However, at the same time, both the 1920s and 1960s did predate internet, video games, and home video, three things that were taken for granted in the 2000s. In the 1920s and 1960s, your only option for movies was to see them in the theater.
Then we have the counter culture. All three decades had their own counter culture. The 1920s had gangsters. The 1960s had hippies. The 2000s had emos. However, the 2000s counter culture is more of a fad popularized by angsty teenagers that was laughed off by the adults, while the 1920s counter culture was an actual rebellious lifestyle popularized by grown adults that violently disrupted order and conformity, it was nothing to f*ck around with. The 1960s counter culture is like a middle ground between those two counter cultures. They did disrupt conformity, but they weren't violent, and it was a movement mostly popular among college aged adults. So the hippies of the 1960s were far more serious non-conformists than the emos of the 2000s, yet at the same time far less serious non-conformists than the gangsters of the 1920s. Whom are they more alike?
And what decade do you think the 1960s are more like, the 2000s or 1920s? Let me know in the comments below.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 29, 2018 13:56:10 GMT 10
Although you can draw comparisons with either decade, I personally believe the 1960s have more in common with the 2000s, for a number of reasons. First off, there was an increased push to improve racial relations. Segregation was abolished in the States in 1964, which immediately disassociates the era from previous times, despite the fact that racism still existed well into the decade.
Another key aspect is the presence of youth-based culture, which has existed since the emergence of Rock 'n Roll in the Mid '50s. The 1920s did not have a "youth" culture and adolescents were viewed and treated as being young adults. Also, I believe social attitudes and customs had more in common with the 2000s than they did with the 1920s.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 14:54:48 GMT 10
1960-1963: 1920's
1964-1969: 2000's
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 29, 2018 14:58:25 GMT 10
1960-1963: 1920's 1964-1969: 2000's Just out of curiosity, what are your reasons for associating 1960-1963 with the '20s and 1964-1969 with the '00s?
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Post by #Infinity on Jan 29, 2018 15:23:42 GMT 10
In my opinion, the 1960s were culturally more similar to the 1920s. There was just so much pivotal technology introduced and standardized from the 1970s to 1990s that people's way of life was completely and radically different in 2000 compared to 1969. Back in the '60s, there was no Internet, no video games, no microwaves, no digital phones (let alone cell phones), no CD's, no personal computers, and numerous other creations that drastically affect everyday life. While the widespread prevalence of television is one major aspect in which the '60s are more like 2000, the content itself was highly primitive back then and really more comparable in substance to '20s cinema, only with sound, since it was still primarily the Old Hollywood era. Even music in the '60s was mostly closer to the '20s, since it was almost entirely non-synthesized, relying primarily on orchestral and acoustic instruments, and while rock in the late '60s is definitely more like alternative rock from the turn of the millennium than anything before the '60s, rock from earlier in the decade and also soul music were generally closer to the Harlem Renaissance sound than the electronic, hip hop-oriented styles of 2000.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 4:12:02 GMT 10
More like the 1920s because in some respects the culture was still primitive. Abortion and homosexuality were still illegal, women and people 'of colour' were still treated as third class citizens and things which wouldn't raise eyebrows these days were taboo subjects.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 7:46:00 GMT 10
1960-1963: 1920's 1964-1969: 2000's Just out of curiosity, what are your reasons for associating 1960-1963 with the '20s and 1964-1969 with the '00s? What I meant was that 1960-1963 were more like the 1920's and that 1964-1969 were more like the 2000's.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 30, 2018 7:52:11 GMT 10
Just out of curiosity, what are your reasons for associating 1960-1963 with the '20s and 1964-1969 with the '00s? What I meant was that 1960-1963 were more like the 1920's and that 1964-1969 were more like the 2000's. I know, but why is that?
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Post by longaotian on Jan 30, 2018 8:09:18 GMT 10
More like the 1920s because in some respects the culture was still primitive. Abortion and homosexuality were still illegal, women and people 'of colour' were still treated as third class citizens and things which wouldn't raise eyebrows these days were taboo subjects. Yeah but these days aren't the 2000s, you need to remember that we've come along way in recent years, especially with things like gay marriages becoming legal, that was pretty rare even in the 2000s.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 30, 2018 9:01:28 GMT 10
RockyMountainExtreme Just out of curiosity, what is your opinion on it? I know you mentioned in your OP that the '60s has similarities with both decades, but which decade do you think were they more similar to?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 9:02:09 GMT 10
What I meant was that 1960-1963 were more like the 1920's and that 1964-1969 were more like the 2000's. I know, but why is that? It is mostly because the British Invasion started, it was post-JFK assassination, and segregation became illegal (like what you said).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 5:02:06 GMT 10
More like the 1920s because in some respects the culture was still primitive. Abortion and homosexuality were still illegal, women and people 'of colour' were still treated as third class citizens and things which wouldn't raise eyebrows these days were taboo subjects. Yeah but these days aren't the 2000s, you need to remember that we've come along way in recent years, especially with things like gay marriages becoming legal, that was pretty rare even in the 2000s. True, but the 1960s were even less advanced in that respect and others. I actually lived through them. People in general had less rights than they do now.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 15, 2022 11:48:39 GMT 10
TV: 2000s, obviously Movies: 2000s Technology: 1920s Music: mixed but overall 2000s Society: 2000s International politics: 1920s Youth culture: 1920s
Overall though I’d say the 20s. It was a pre-video game pre-computer society. It’s a completely different world from 21st century society, no matter which way you look at it. Hell, even in the 80s and 90s, the 60s looked ancient (especially the pre-British Invasion/Civil Rights 60s).
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Post by mc98 on Mar 15, 2022 12:10:15 GMT 10
TV: 2000s, obviously Movies: 2000s Technology: 1920s Music: mixed but overall 2000s Society: 2000s International politics: 1920s Youth culture: 1920s Overall though I’d say the 20s. It was a pre-video game pre-computer society. It’s a completely different world from 21st century society, no matter which way you look at it. Hell, even in the 80s and 90s, the 60s looked ancient (especially the pre-British Invasion/Civil Rights 60s). Wait, why is youth culture closer to the 1920s? This was when fashion starts to get more casual and less formal, especially in the second half. I think some technology in the 60s is mixed. For example, television was non-existant in the 1920s and in the 1960s, it was a household item.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Mar 15, 2022 12:14:57 GMT 10
1920s. The 60s didn't have the internet and feels extremely antique in basically every area of life compared to the 2000s, fashion, music, speech, you name it. Half the decade was pre civil rights as well.
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