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Post by dudewitdausername on Nov 12, 2020 13:58:47 GMT 10
If we're bringing back 2000s rock, I'd love to also bring back 2000s hip-hop. Neither sound 2000s at all to be honest. Yeah, the first one is by two 2000s rappers, but that's about it. The second one samples a song from 1999. They both very late '10s/2020 to me otherwise.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 12, 2020 15:49:03 GMT 10
It isn't going to happen. Tickets to My Downfall hasn't set the world on fire as it is. "Bloody Valentine" debuted at #50 on the Billboard Hot 100 before then dropping 40 positions down to #90 the following week. Even the lead-single off the album, which is more of a pop-punk/Trap hybrid song and features Blackbear as a guest rapper, hasn't done that great on the charts worldwide either. The only country where it has performed quite well is here in Australia. It has been within our Top-40 for over 8 weeks now and it reached a peak of #22, which is it's highest peak on the charts worldwide.
I have noticed that rock seems to be experiencing something of a resurgence in the mainstream at the moment, what with Machine Gun Kelly's new album, crossover hits like 24KGoldn's "Mood", and Bring Me The Horizon and System of a Down charting high on the iTunes charts. However, I think it's just a short fad rather than it being any legitimate sign of a full-fledged return to the Top-40.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 21:03:39 GMT 10
Remember we were all saying in 2017 that Lights Out by Royal Blood was going to mark the triumphant return of hard rock. It didn't happen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 6:30:11 GMT 10
If we're bringing back 2000s rock, I'd love to also bring back 2000s hip-hop. Neither sound 2000s at all to be honest. Yeah, the first one is by two 2000s rappers, but that's about it. The second one samples a song from 1999. They both very late '10s/2020 to me otherwise. I don't know. To me, both songs sound like they could have come out any time between 2006 and 2009 or 2010. The background synths and the lack of autotune really punctuates that sound, at least to me. They definitely don't sound late '10s in my opinion.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Nov 13, 2020 7:22:10 GMT 10
Neither sound 2000s at all to be honest. Yeah, the first one is by two 2000s rappers, but that's about it. The second one samples a song from 1999. They both very late '10s/2020 to me otherwise. I don't know. To me, both songs sound like they could have come out any time between 2006 and 2009 or 2010. The background synths and the lack of autotune really punctuates that sound, at least to me. They definitely don't sound late '10s in my opinion. There was a lot of autotune in hip hop from 2006 to 2009. T-Pain, Akon, Kanye in 808s. Autotune is actually less of a thing in modern hip hop.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 13, 2020 8:52:35 GMT 10
To add on from what I was saying, it isn't so much to do with pop-punk itself no longer having any appeal, I just feel as though too much time has passed since rock was last significant for it to have any hope of ever making a full-fledged return. I was listening to a 2009 flashback segment on the radio less than an hour ago and it got me thinking; even songs like "Gives You Hell", "Second Chance" and "Waking Up in Vegas" are almost 12 years old. People around my age were the last to have grown up with it and we're now all in our early-mid 20s. The kids and teens of today aren't going to connect with rock music in the same way that previous generations did.
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Post by Telso on Nov 13, 2020 9:39:59 GMT 10
Machine Gun Kelly's new album gets so overhyped on here, while in reality it did an okay first week before falling like a stone in the charts.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 13, 2020 9:42:38 GMT 10
Gods, I hope not. Nothing against pop rock or pop punk, but rehashes are the worst. Mid 90s emo needs to come back and readjust the mistake of 2000s emo.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 13, 2020 9:46:13 GMT 10
Machine Gun Kelly's new album gets so overhyped on here, while in reality it did an okay first week before falling like a stone in the charts. "My Ex's Best Friend" is doing well on the charts here in Australia, but yeah, the album itself hasn't achieved a great deal of success.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 9:53:08 GMT 10
Can we all admit that most the pop punk music was awful? I feel like the only reason it was popular was because it was everywhere like kids commercials and video games, and people like familiar sounds. Now it's not longer a familiar sound. The music is gonna have to actually be GOOD to make a comeback and not just a rehash.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 13, 2020 9:58:28 GMT 10
Green Day and The Offspring were genuinely good, but I've never been a particularly huge fan of the Blink-182 era of pop-punk that was popular around the turn of the millennium. I like the odd song or two, such as "Josie", "Fat Lip" and "In Too Deep", however the rest of the songs I can take them or leave. I much prefer Nu-metal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 10:00:51 GMT 10
Can we all admit that most the pop punk music was awful? I feel like the only reason it was popular was because it was everywhere like kids commercials and video games, and people like familiar sounds. Now it's not longer a familiar sound. The music is gonna have to actually be GOOD to make a comeback and not just a rehash. I liked some of it, but I fully agree that if it's going to make a comeback it's going to need to be good and not a rehash. I don't see the new Machine Gun Kelly song be any kind of indicator of a pop punk revival. I'm hoping the 2020s are less nostalgia focused than the 2010s were.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 10:47:17 GMT 10
Green Day and The Offspring were genuinely good, but I've never been a particularly huge fan of the Blink-182 era of pop-punk that was popular around the turn of the millennium. I like the odd song or two, such as "Josie", "Fat Lip" and "In Too Deep", however the rest of the songs I can take them or leave. I much prefer Nu-metal. I was a fan of that Blink-182 era - those were my middle school years - and I don't want to see a revival.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 11:03:50 GMT 10
Green Day and The Offspring were genuinely good, but I've never been a particularly huge fan of the Blink-182 era of pop-punk that was popular around the turn of the millennium. I like the odd song or two, such as "Josie", "Fat Lip" and "In Too Deep", however the rest of the songs I can take them or leave. I much prefer Nu-metal. Listen to all of Sum 41's early albums. They are not Blink-182 style at all despite their singles
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Post by John Titor on Nov 13, 2020 11:48:37 GMT 10
Can we all admit that most the pop punk music was awful? I feel like the only reason it was popular was because it was everywhere like kids commercials and video games, and people like familiar sounds. Now it's not longer a familiar sound. The music is gonna have to actually be GOOD to make a comeback and not just a rehash. I actually liked pop punk lol
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