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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 11:49:27 GMT 10
Can we all admit that most the pop punk music was awful? I feel like the only reason it was popular was because it was everywhere like kids commercials and video games, and people like familiar sounds. Now it's not longer a familiar sound. The music is gonna have to actually be GOOD to make a comeback and not just a rehash. I actually liked pop punk lol I like it too but everyone older hated it at the time and listening to Machine Gun Kelly I can hear why. No offence MGK or his fans if there are any here, but, it's been done before, and even when it was "done" it was not critically acclaimed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 14:07:57 GMT 10
I think pop punk was a huge part of the zeitgeist of the late '90s and early '00s, but it's hard for me to see a revival. I'm not sure I'd even want it to happen unless it was a new spin on the genre.
Nostalgia fads are always short-lived. True revivals bring something new to the genre.
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Post by John Titor on Nov 13, 2020 14:54:10 GMT 10
I think pop punk was a huge part of the zeitgeist of the late '90s and early '00s, but it's hard for me to see a revival. I'm not sure I'd even want it to happen unless it was a new spin on the genre. Nostalgia fads are always short-lived. True revivals bring something new to the genre. mid 2000s as well while emo was grabbing it by the horns
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Post by John Titor on Nov 13, 2020 14:55:47 GMT 10
I actually liked pop punk lol I like it too but everyone older hated it at the time and listening to Machine Gun Kelly I can hear why. No offence MGK or his fans if there are any here, but, it's been done before, and even when it was "done" it was not critically acclaimed. define what u mean by older, everyone I know loved Pop punk from 2001 - 2006 lol 
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Post by slashpop on Nov 13, 2020 15:45:39 GMT 10
Green Day and The Offspring were genuinely good, but I've never been a particularly huge fan of the Blink-182 era of pop-punk that was popular around the turn of the millennium. I like the odd song or two, such as "Josie", "Fat Lip" and "In Too Deep", however the rest of the songs I can take them or leave. I much prefer Nu-metal.  You should check out the 1987-early 1994 era of pop punk before it got mainstream when lookout records was big and bands like screeching weasel, mr t experience, dead milkmen, descendants really put out amazing stuff alongside really good early releases by greenday and nofx. Greenday in 1989: 
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Post by John Titor on Nov 13, 2020 15:47:01 GMT 10
Rap merging even more lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2020 0:40:23 GMT 10
I like it too but everyone older hated it at the time and listening to Machine Gun Kelly I can hear why. No offence MGK or his fans if there are any here, but, it's been done before, and even when it was "done" it was not critically acclaimed. define what u mean by older, everyone I know loved Pop punk from 2001 - 2006 lol Adults. 20+ I guess. You don't remember people excoriating contemporary music of the time? I'm pretty sure I remember Blink-182 having as many haters as fans. My faves Avril Lavigne and Simple Plan had so many h8ers, it was intolerable.
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Post by John Titor on Nov 14, 2020 3:41:54 GMT 10
define what u mean by older, everyone I know loved Pop punk from 2001 - 2006 lol  Adults. 20+ I guess. You don't remember people excoriating contemporary music of the time? I'm pretty sure I remember Blink-182 having as many haters as fans. My faves Avril Lavigne and Simple Plan had so many h8ers, it was intolerable. Not really, but that could be because I was a teenager during 90% of the 2000s lol I know simple plan did have haters from both tho, I remember that
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2020 22:13:40 GMT 10
I think pop punk was a huge part of the zeitgeist of the late '90s and early '00s, but it's hard for me to see a revival. I'm not sure I'd even want it to happen unless it was a new spin on the genre. Nostalgia fads are always short-lived. True revivals bring something new to the genre. Yeah, that's precisely why it seems so out of sync. When pop punk was king in the late '90s and early '00s, we were experiencing a time of opulence and optimism - people were pretty financially well off and there was a lot to be optimistic about with the coming of the new millennium. Now, in the middle of a pandemic when the world seems to be going insane, it just seems so incongruous with where we're at.
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Post by John Titor on Nov 15, 2020 5:30:26 GMT 10
I think pop punk was a huge part of the zeitgeist of the late '90s and early '00s, but it's hard for me to see a revival. I'm not sure I'd even want it to happen unless it was a new spin on the genre. Nostalgia fads are always short-lived. True revivals bring something new to the genre. Yeah, that's precisely why it seems so out of sync. When pop punk was king in the late '90s and early '00s, we were experiencing a time of opulence and optimism - people were pretty financially well off and there was a lot to be optimistic about with the coming of the new millennium. Now, in the middle of a pandemic when the world seems to be going insane, it just seems so incongruous with where we're at. don't forget the emo era of pop punk (which still had that optimism going on)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 20:39:29 GMT 10
Yes, we know. But I will say that feels like a sufficiently different thing from pop punk, and it did come about during the chaos and fear of the War on Terror. 2000s emo may be a little better of a fit to these times.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 15, 2020 21:10:59 GMT 10
MID 90s pop punk and emo needs to come back, even though I prefer pop punk and emo from earlier.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 15, 2020 21:15:47 GMT 10
Yes, we know. But I will say that feels like a sufficiently different thing from pop punk, and it did come about during the chaos and fear of the War on Terror. 2000s emo may be a little better of a fit to these times. The chances of it actually happening are small, I know, but I actually think emo has more of a chance of making a comeback into the mainstream than what pop-punk does. Emo-rap has been hugely popular among the Gen Z crowd over the past few years.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 15, 2020 21:21:45 GMT 10
Yes, we know. But I will say that feels like a sufficiently different thing from pop punk, and it did come about during the chaos and fear of the War on Terror. 2000s emo may be a little better of a fit to these times. I want to see stuff like sunny day real estate, samiam and knapsack come back circa 1994-96/97 come back, feel like theres been missing gap of rock for so long, would be cool to reclaim something a bit closer to the original emo like the below from 95, fits the times as well. This is also applies to pop punk.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 22:05:24 GMT 10
Yes, we know. But I will say that feels like a sufficiently different thing from pop punk, and it did come about during the chaos and fear of the War on Terror. 2000s emo may be a little better of a fit to these times. I want to see stuff like sunny day real estate, samiam and knapsack come back circa 1994-96/97 come back, feel like theres been missing gap of rock for so long, would be cool to reclaim something a bit closer to the original emo like the below from 95, fits the times as well. This is also applies to pop punk. As much as I would love it, I think that’s a longshot. Midwest emo is really popular on YouTube, but it has utterly failed to expand beyond that fan base.
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