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Post by jaydawg89 on May 9, 2021 16:55:47 GMT 10
- 1980 and 1989 are even more different from eachother than 1990 and 1999 are. - The 1930s are very underrated. They were a crap era to live in, but they should get more credit for all the revolutions when it comes to music, cinema and fashion that took place during the decade. I've been saying this for ages. The 80s were absolutely a changeful decade. The explosion of MTV, the death of Vinyl Records, the explosion of drum machines and synthesizers in music (despite having its seed planted in the 70s), CDs emerging (tbf, not everyone was using it in even 1989), the Walkman (nuff said), the explosion of Hip Hop music & culture, tech went from wood grain to Black & Beige, the explosion of VHS (people underrate this one), Cable TV became popular, there was the earliest computer animations (think "Money for Nothing" and Pixar shorts), Video games went from 8-bit to 16-bit in the arcades (in 1988 & 89 you saw the very earliest 3D polygon games), computers replace type writers in work places (there was also a huge jump in computing power in the 80s, like bigger than the 90s, 00s and 10s, when I got into collecting electronics, I really noticed the jump). I can go on and on and on lmao. I don't know if they were more different than 1990 and 1999 (as those two years felt like a pretty drastic jump too), it's all up to opinion and how you see it though I guess. With the type writers and computer point I stated, I first noticed this when I read a post about it (on inthe00s). This person realized this shift watching Ghostbusters 1 & 2. I went to watch the two movies and I noticed it too. In Ghostbusters 1 (filmed in late 1983/early 1984), I mostly saw type writers meanwhile, in Ghostbusters 2 (filmed in late 1988/early 1989), it was mostly computers.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 22:51:34 GMT 10
The ‘80s can go die in a hole. The ‘90s were not as great as people remember. The ‘00s were pretty cool but I feel guilty enjoying the decade. How are 80s and 90s worse than the 2000s? Sure chunks of the 2000s were better than the 2009 to the present in a few ways and deserve some degree of credit for being original, but nowhere near the quality of a huge amount of pop culture from the 80s and 90s. There are far too many things from the 2000s much like the 2010s that are substandard and unoriginal, far beyond the worst or what could be considered the worst of 80s and 90s pop culture imo I mean, do I have to get into the seriously problematic aspects of '80s pop culture, including and especially the aspects most people seem to enjoy? And all I said was the '90s are overrated, not that they were bad or anything.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 10:12:54 GMT 10
- 1980 and 1989 are even more different from eachother than 1990 and 1999 are. - The 1930s are very underrated. They were a crap era to live in, but they should get more credit for all the revolutions when it comes to music, cinema and fashion that took place during the decade. I've been saying this for ages. The 80s were absolutely a changeful decade. The explosion of MTV, the death of Vinyl Records, the explosion of drum machines and synthesizers in music (despite having its seed planted in the 70s), CDs emerging (tbf, not everyone was using it in even 1989), the Walkman (nuff said), the explosion of Hip Hop music & culture, tech went from wood grain to Black & Beige, the explosion of VHS (people underrate this one), Cable TV became popular, there was the earliest computer animations (think "Money for Nothing" and Pixar shorts), Video games went from 8-bit to 16-bit in the arcades (in 1988 & 89 you saw the very earliest 3D polygon games), computers replace type writers in work places (there was also a huge jump in computing power in the 80s, like bigger than the 90s, 00s and 10s, when I got into collecting electronics, I really noticed the jump). I can go on and on and on lmao. I don't know if they were more different than 1990 and 1999 (as those two years felt like a pretty drastic jump too), it's all up to opinion and how you see it though I guess. With the type writers and computer point I stated, I first noticed this when I read a post about it (on inthe00s). This person realized this shift watching Ghostbusters 1 & 2. I went to watch the two movies and I noticed it too. In Ghostbusters 1 (filmed in late 1983/early 1984), I mostly saw type writers meanwhile, in Ghostbusters 2 (filmed in late 1988/early 1989), it was mostly computers. I think the '80s changefulness gets understated often because almost everything that came out of that decade has aged very poorly. Most stuff from the '90s on the other hand hasn't as much. There were a lot of big things in tech that decade but most of it was superseded in the '90s. Fashion and cars from the '80s have few redeeming characteristics and were some of the worst ever. The '80s are also my least favorite decade for music in the entire 20th century. That's not to say that there wasn't good music to come out of the '80s because there definitely was, but it's more hit or miss with me than other decades. Following the pattern, '80s movies also haven't aged well and lack the kind of realism that you see in movies from the '90s onwards. This issue is cross-genre as well.
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Post by John Titor on May 13, 2021 10:47:30 GMT 10
- The 2010s sucked - 2010 2011 2019 are the only okay years of the 2010s ( 2019 not by much) - The 2000s were better than the 90s ( i lived thru both) - 80s overrated - 70s dusty - 2015 was boring bland and long in the tooth - 2009 is a epilogue year of the 2000s - I actually liked the mid 2000s and thought they were miles better than late 2000s - Late 2000s were actually not that great but had bright moments like Late 2006 and all of 2008
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Post by y2kbaby on May 13, 2021 12:50:02 GMT 10
Update: 1. The late 2000s is underrated despite the Great Recession. Society overall were more optimistic than it is right now. Pop Culture wasn't ENTIRELY nostalgia focused nor so many reboots/sequels etc... 2. 1950s is a underrated decade for Pop Culture. The Economy was good for the most part. And there was somewhat of a change (like the Brown vs Board Education 1954). 3. At this point, I find the 1980s overrated. It will not be overrated had the mainstream media shove it down our freakin throats. 4. The 1920s doesn't get a lot of love. I love the culture. It looks like the people of the time were having fun before the 1929 crash happened.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 15:20:08 GMT 10
Update: 1. The late 2000s is underrated despite the Great Recession. Society overall were more optimistic than it is right now. Pop Culture wasn't ENTIRELY nostalgia focused nor so many reboots/sequels etc... 2. 1950s is a underrated decade for Pop Culture. The Economy was good for the most part. And there was somewhat of a change (like the Brown vs Board Education 1954). 3. At this point, I find the 1980s overrated. It will not be overrated had the mainstream media shoved down our freakin throats. 4. The 1920s doesn't get a lot of love. I love the culture. It looks like the people of the time were having fun before the 1929 crash happened. Conservative boomers love the 1980s. It's not that popular with other people. I agree on the 1950s. I've always liked the music, the aesthetic, and the fashion of that decade. Unfortunately the rigidly conservative culture kind of ruins it. To put it into perspective, Jim Crow was still in effect in the US South at that time. The 1950s was probably the worst decade of the 20th century to be LGBTQ. I also agree on the 1920s, but I think at this point that's becoming more history in people's consciousness and people really don't think about it in terms of pop culture. It seems like the pop music that's most relevant today is pretty much from Elvis onward or maybe back to Frank Sinatra, Perry Como, and Nat King Cole for some people. Most don't know much farther back than that.
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Post by jaydawg89 on May 13, 2021 17:08:52 GMT 10
Update: 1. The late 2000s is underrated despite the Great Recession. Society overall were more optimistic than it is right now. Pop Culture wasn't ENTIRELY nostalgia focused nor so many reboots/sequels etc... 2. 1950s is a underrated decade for Pop Culture. The Economy was good for the most part. And there was somewhat of a change (like the Brown vs Board Education 1954). 3. At this point, I find the 1980s overrated. It will not be overrated had the mainstream media shoved down our freakin throats. 4. The 1920s doesn't get a lot of love. I love the culture. It looks like the people of the time were having fun before the 1929 crash happened. Conservative boomers love the 1980s. It's not that popular with other people. I agree on the 1950s. I've always liked the music, the aesthetic, and the fashion of that decade. Unfortunately the rigidly conservative culture kind of ruins it. To put it into perspective, Jim Crow was still in effect in the US South at that time. The 1950s was probably the worst decade of the 20th century to be LGBTQ. I also agree on the 1920s, but I think at this point that's becoming more history in people's consciousness and people really don't think about it in terms of pop culture. It seems like the pop music that's most relevant today is pretty much from Elvis onward or maybe back to Frank Sinatra, Perry Como, and Nat King Cole for some people. Most don't know much farther back than that. Idk, the 80s seem to get the most love from people born in the 60s and 70s I notice.
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Post by astropoug on May 15, 2021 8:32:47 GMT 10
Conservative boomers love the 1980s. It's not that popular with other people. I agree on the 1950s. I've always liked the music, the aesthetic, and the fashion of that decade. Unfortunately the rigidly conservative culture kind of ruins it. To put it into perspective, Jim Crow was still in effect in the US South at that time. The 1950s was probably the worst decade of the 20th century to be LGBTQ. I also agree on the 1920s, but I think at this point that's becoming more history in people's consciousness and people really don't think about it in terms of pop culture. It seems like the pop music that's most relevant today is pretty much from Elvis onward or maybe back to Frank Sinatra, Perry Como, and Nat King Cole for some people. Most don't know much farther back than that. Idk, the 80s seem to get the most love from people born in the 60s and 70s I notice. AKA Generation X lmao I think it's more people born in the 70s and early 80s that love the 80s, in much the same way most 90s kids are born in the 80s and early 90s. That would be when the 80s is your childhood era. That said, I know some young people who like the 80s, whether it be for the music, or movies, or aesthetic. They probably either don't care about, or flat-out hate Reagan-era politics though. Most people who say they like the 80s usually say they like the CULTURE, rather than the politics/society. Same goes for most nostalgic decades really. I don't like 2000s-era politics or society, but still love the culture as my childhood decade.
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Post by SharksFan99 on May 15, 2021 20:29:29 GMT 10
I also agree on the 1920s, but I think at this point that's becoming more history in people's consciousness and people really don't think about it in terms of pop culture. I think it will be interesting to see what happens once the post-war decades start to reach that 100-year mark. How will people perceive the 1950s and '60s in another 30-40 years time? Will they also be simply forgotten about and lost to time, or are the culture of those decades simply too ingrained for them to ever truly go away? I think people will still be listening to Elvis Presley and The Beatles in the 2100s, for instance. Idk, the 80s seem to get the most love from people born in the 60s and 70s I notice. Ironically, my 1964-born Mum and 1967-born Dad both cringe when they think back to the '80s, and prefer the '90s a whole lot more, lol.
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Post by jaydawg89 on May 15, 2021 22:56:58 GMT 10
I also agree on the 1920s, but I think at this point that's becoming more history in people's consciousness and people really don't think about it in terms of pop culture. I think it will be interesting to see what happens once the post-war decades start to reach that 100-year mark. How will people perceive the 1950s and '60s in another 30-40 years time? Will they also be simply forgotten about and lost to time, or are the culture of those decades simply too ingrained for them to ever truly go away? I think people will still be listening to Elvis Presley and The Beatles in the 2100s, for instance. Idk, the 80s seem to get the most love from people born in the 60s and 70s I notice. Ironically, my 1964-born Mum and 1967-born Dad both cringe when they think back to the '80s, and prefer the '90s a whole lot more, lol. Depends on the person. My uncle is born in 1971 and really doesn't like the 80s and by far prefers the 90s.
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Post by dudewitdausername on May 18, 2021 6:47:34 GMT 10
The early 2000s do seem old. 2000-2003 today is the equivalent of 1979-1985 back then, and to me something like "Baby One More Time" by Britney Spears (2000) feels just as old in today's time as "Bad Girls" by Donna Summers (1979) feels compared to it.
The big reason why people think the early 2000s feel "newer" is because the number "2000" looks and sounds a lot more modern now than "1979" did then.
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Post by astropoug on May 21, 2021 5:59:25 GMT 10
1950s culture began in 1947 with the start of the Cold War, popularization of television, rise of traditional pop like Frank Sinatra and decline of big bands, and rise of McCarthyism. Since the 40s is associated with World War II and big band principally, the fact that 1947-1949 were largely devoid of both clearly means 50s culture actually began here. You teleport someone to those years, guarantee you they'll think it's the 50s rather than 40s. Likewise, it didn't end until 1963 with the breakout with Bob Dylan and The Beatles songs Like a Rolling Stone and I Want to Hold Your Hand, as well as MLK's I Had a Dream speech and JFK's assassination. However, even 1963-1964 still has some 50s elements that didn't completely go away until 1965. The 50s is culturally by far the longest decade, with 50s cultural elements beginning as early as 1946, and staying until as late as 1964, with the core 50s culture lasting from 1947 to 1962. However, it's somewhat I split decade between the McCarthyist 1947-1956 era, and the doo-wop/rock and roll 1957-1962 era.
2009 is firmly a 2000s year with SOME 2010s influences. 2010s culture didn't truly begin until 2013 with the death of skeumorphism and rise of flat design, replacement of 7th gen consoles PS3, Xbox 360) with 8th gen consoles (PS4, Xbox One), rise of artists like Ariana Grande, and the start of Black Lives Matter. Prior to that, it was essentially just a continuation of 2000s culture. 2010-2012 is thusly a transitional period between 2000s and 2010s culture.
The mid-90s really isn't that distinctive apart from being that awkward period between the grunge era of 1991-1994, and the teen pop era of 1997-2000, making 1995-1996 the mid 90s, with 1995 erring closer to the grunge era, and 1996 erring closer to the teen pop era.
2001 and 2008 were two years that were really strong for pop culture, but only really get a bad rap due to current events going on at the time.
2014 isn't a bad year at all honestly. And I used to hate the year, but then I realized it was incredibly strong for pop culture, including movies, TV, and music. Kinda a weak year for video games admittedly.
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Post by 10slover on Jun 3, 2021 8:16:08 GMT 10
The 10s were better than the 80s, 90s and 00s. I might be biased, futhermore, i think 10s Nostalgia is gonna be huge in the future, maybe even bigger than 80s nostalgia is today
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Post by dudewitdausername on Jun 3, 2021 8:23:04 GMT 10
The 10s were better than the 80s, 90s and 00s. I might be biased, futhermore, i think 10s Nostalgia is gonna be huge in the future, maybe even bigger than 80s nostalgia is today IMO the 80s are very overrated and I like the 70s, 90s and 2000s a lot better. I think the 10s are a bit below the 90s and 2000s, but similar to the 80s I can see them being overrated to those two decades in the future, too. The 20s I can see being looked at in a similar light to the 2000s, a lot of hardship happening but they will be looked at with "rose-tinted glasses". Very weird to me that 2011/2012 is already very nostalgic in pop culture. Could be the pandemic kinda speeding things up, since the early 10s were mostly a happy and optimistic time since it was after the recession ended.
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Post by 10slover on Jun 4, 2021 5:07:59 GMT 10
The 10s were better than the 80s, 90s and 00s. I might be biased, futhermore, i think 10s Nostalgia is gonna be huge in the future, maybe even bigger than 80s nostalgia is today IMO the 80s are very overrated and I like the 70s, 90s and 2000s a lot better. I think the 10s are a bit below the 90s and 2000s, but similar to the 80s I can see them being overrated to those two decades in the future, too. The 20s I can see being looked at in a similar light to the 2000s, a lot of hardship happening but they will be looked at with "rose-tinted glasses". Very weird to me that 2011/2012 is already very nostalgic in pop culture. Could be the pandemic kinda speeding things up, since the early 10s were mostly a happy and optimistic time since it was after the recession ended. Agreed, and i can see the optimism coming back once the covid pandemic really ends, unless a 2016 scenario happens again in 2024... Which is very much a possibility.
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