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Post by mc98 on May 10, 2021 10:05:01 GMT 10
2012-2015 is also another big gap. 2012 was the last year when electropop dominated the charts until they were non-existent in 2015. Wokeism in 2012 was barely on people's radar while it was blowing up in 2015. Memes in 2012 still has a classic vibe while 2015 was dominated by dank and MLG memes. Last full year of iPhones having skeuomorphic design while flat is pretty much default in the tech world in 2015. The last year one could get away with having slider phones and digital cameras where in 2015, smartphones are a must-have. IMO I would say a lot of mid-2010s trends started in 2012 already. Look at Windows 8 and how it's in flat design. And I remember smartphones were already considered must-haves in 2012. Hell, phones with cameras were already common as early as 2003 when Nokia started coming out with them. Otherwise I agree. I think 2013 was REALLY the major transitional year. It was also the year Black Lives Matter was founded. Tbh, Windows 8 was not very successful at launch. So many people kept their Windows 7 OS in their PC's until 2015 when W10 came out. I think you also left out 2008-2011. The majority of people in 2008 didn't own smartphones while in 2011 they were starting to become common. In 2008, music was dominated by rock, R&B, and hip hop; in 2011 electropop and EDM dominated the music landscape. HD took over in 2011 while in 2008 it was not ubiquitous.
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Post by astropoug on May 10, 2021 10:07:23 GMT 10
IMO I would say a lot of mid-2010s trends started in 2012 already. Look at Windows 8 and how it's in flat design. And I remember smartphones were already considered must-haves in 2012. Hell, phones with cameras were already common as early as 2003 when Nokia started coming out with them. Otherwise I agree. I think 2013 was REALLY the major transitional year. It was also the year Black Lives Matter was founded. Tbh, Windows 8 was not very successful at launch. So many people kept their Windows 7 OS in their PC's until 2015 when W10 came out. I think you also left out 2008-2011. The majority of people in 2008 didn't own smartphones while in 2011 they were starting to become common. In 2008, music was dominated by rock, R&B, and hip hop; in 2011 electropop and EDM dominated the music landscape. HD took over in 2011 while in 2008 it was not ubiquitous. See 2007-2010. I made all the exact same points there. Also, just because Windows 8 wasn't successful doesn't invalidate my point. It still marked Microsoft's transition away from skeuomorphism to flat design, which, if you use Windows 10, is clearly still in place. It was still clear the industry as a whole was moving away from skeuomorphic design. Modernism and flat design was getting big as early as 2009 when Pepsi, Nickelodeon, and AOL all changed and simplified their logos. Microsoft already started working with Metro design with Windows Phone 7, that was 2010. I'm just saying it didn't fully take over until 2012-2013. Apple if anything were hold-outs, as Steve Jobs was a proponent of skeuomorphism. His death was pretty much the end of the skeuomorphic era. Google and Microsoft already started simplifying their logos and designs by 2010-2011. When iOS 7 came out in 2013 though, it was pretty much the death kneel for skeuomorphism, and macOS's similar transition in 2014, as well as the adoption of Material design by Google in 2014 was the final nail in the coffin.
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Post by Telso on May 16, 2021 4:31:25 GMT 10
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Although we could already see the premises of the 60s in 1962, it still seems like another world compared to 1965, let alone the late 60s!
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Similarly 1963-1966 is a huge feeling gap despite '63 feeling much more advanced compared to previous years.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 18:22:27 GMT 10
2002 to 2005 seems to be the biggest gap of the 2000s and possibly of the 21st century so far culturally. Those years seem mostly disconnected asides being classic 2000s years, having George W Bush as president, Playstation 2 as the popular gaming console, some music artists and some fashion, although the styles changed a lot between those years.
2002 is the last full year 5th generation gaming consoles are sold, last full year VHS dominated DVD’s until June 2003 according to online statistics, last full year of late 1990s and Y2K influences, pre-Iraq War, pre-crunk, pre-snap, pre-emo, pre-social media (Myspace, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter), before cellphone explosion, last full year of Web 1.0 internet. Do not @ me to argue about DVD and VHS popularity LOL. I know DVD’s are growing in popularity in the early 2000s, especially late 2001 with the PS2 being finally available. Many 1990s shows are airing in 2002. 2002 is barely removed from the late 1990s despite being post 9/11. 1999 and 2002 are different cultural eras, but not different worlds or planets from each other. They got more similarities than differences. 2002 is closer to the 1990s than today. 2002 is the last year I can say is retro and has nothing in common with today. Early 2000s has more in common with the late 1990s than it does with the core or mid 2000s. 2002 is quintessential early 2000s, but not stereotypical 2000s. 2002 is also not core 2000s as that would not begin until March to August 2003.
2005 has no more 5th generation gaming remnants, no more late 1990s influences, is solidly Web 2.0 internet, has social media with Myspace being popular, cellphones ubiquitous, VHS close to being dead (Last movie on VHS, “A History of Violence,” is released in 2006 which is when I consider VHS dead.), DVD’s dominating VHS and no more 1990s shows. 2005 is peak emo. 2004 or 2005 are peak crunk years. Snap started to rise sometime in 2004 or 2005, but is bigger in 2005. Fall 2004 to 2006 is the infancy of modern culture. 2005 has more in common with today than it does with the 1990s. 2005 is quintessential mid 2000s and probably the most stereotypical 2000s year.
2002 and the first half of 2005 are underrated and under appreciated. Second half of 2005 is overrated and gets too much praise. 2002 seems like a simpler time than 2005. I would rather live in 2002 than 2005. 2002 is my favorite 2000s year. 2002 seems more fun, lively, carefree and better than 2005 in every way.
With the 2010s, it is hard for me to say because the 2010s are culturally stagnant. I think I will go with 2014 to 2017 being a big gap in the 2010s, but even that is a stretch. In 2014, the thought of Trump being president is unthinkable and he is seen as a joke reality TV show host although he may have been considering running for president then. In 2017, he is president. 2014 has early 2010s influences, which are dead before 2017 hits. 2010 through October 2013 is an endless 2009 time loop. 2014 through January 2017 is an endless 2013 time loop. 2018 through May 2019 is an endless 2017 time loop. 2020 through October 2021 will probably be an endless 2019 time loop. I think by around November 2021, we will break free from that spell and can say that we are in a different era, the true early 2020s.
Hopefully the 2020s bring more changes. I predict and hope in the 2020s, 2020 to 2023, 2023-2026 and 2026-2029 being big 3 year gaps, but for the better.
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Post by pumpkin14 on Jun 10, 2021 19:22:33 GMT 10
2002 to 2005 seems to be the biggest gap of the 2000s and possibly of the 21st century so far culturally. Those years seem mostly disconnected asides being classic 2000s years, having George W Bush as president, Playstation 2 as the popular gaming console, some music artists and some fashion, although the styles changed a lot between those years. 2002 is the last full year 5th generation gaming consoles are sold, last full year VHS dominated DVD’s until June 2003 according to online statistics, last full year of late 1990s and Y2K influences, pre-Iraq War, pre-crunk, pre-snap, pre-emo, pre-social media (Myspace, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter), before cellphone explosion, last full year of Web 1.0 internet. Do not @ me to argue about DVD and VHS popularity LOL. I know DVD’s are growing in popularity in the early 2000s, especially late 2001 with the PS2 being finally available. Many 1990s shows are airing in 2002. 2002 is barely removed from the late 1990s despite being post 9/11. 1999 and 2002 are different cultural eras, but not different worlds or planets from each other. They got more similarities than differences. 2002 is closer to the 1990s than today. 2002 is the last year I can say is retro and has nothing in common with today. Early 2000s has more in common with the late 1990s than it does with the core or mid 2000s. 2002 is quintessential early 2000s, but not stereotypical 2000s. 2002 is also not core 2000s as that would not begin until March to August 2003. 2005 has no more 5th generation gaming remnants, no more late 1990s influences, is solidly Web 2.0 internet, has social media with Myspace being popular, cellphones ubiquitous, VHS close to being dead (Last movie on VHS, “A History of Violence,” is released in 2006 which is when I consider VHS dead.), DVD’s dominating VHS and no more 1990s shows. 2005 is peak emo. 2004 or 2005 are peak crunk years. Snap started to rise sometime in 2004 or 2005, but is bigger in 2005. Fall 2004 to 2006 is the infancy of modern culture. 2005 has more in common with today than it does with the 1990s. 2005 is quintessential mid 2000s and probably the most stereotypical 2000s year. 2002 and the first half of 2005 are underrated and under appreciated. Second half of 2005 is overrated and gets too much praise. 2002 seems like a simpler time than 2005. I would rather live in 2002 than 2005. 2002 is my favorite 2000s year. 2002 seems more fun, lively, carefree and better than 2005 in every way. With the 2010s, it is hard for me to say because the 2010s are culturally stagnant. I think I will go with 2014 to 2017 being a big gap in the 2010s, but even that is a stretch. In 2014, the thought of Trump being president is unthinkable and he is seen as a joke reality TV show host although he may have been considering running for president then. In 2017, he is president. 2014 has early 2010s influences, which are dead before 2017 hits. 2010 through October 2013 is an endless 2009 time loop. 2014 through January 2017 is an endless 2013 time loop. 2018 through May 2019 is an endless 2017 time loop. 2020 through October 2021 will probably be an endless 2019 time loop. I think by around November 2021, we will break free from that spell and can say that we are in a different era, the true early 2020s. Hopefully the 2020s bring more changes. I predict and hope in the 2020s, 2020 to 2023, 2023-2026 and 2026-2029 being big 3 year gaps, but for the better. I agree. Myself and a lot of others on this forum seem to predict that the early 2020s will be very changeful and different from the late 2020s. I hope we are all right
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Post by ItsMichael on Jun 11, 2021 1:28:02 GMT 10
2002 to 2005 seems to be the biggest gap of the 2000s and possibly of the 21st century so far culturally. Those years seem mostly disconnected asides being classic 2000s years, having George W Bush as president, Playstation 2 as the popular gaming console, some music artists and some fashion, although the styles changed a lot between those years. 2002 is the last full year 5th generation gaming consoles are sold, last full year VHS dominated DVD’s until June 2003 according to online statistics, last full year of late 1990s and Y2K influences, pre-Iraq War, pre-crunk, pre-snap, pre-emo, pre-social media (Myspace, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter), before cellphone explosion, last full year of Web 1.0 internet. Do not @ me to argue about DVD and VHS popularity LOL. I know DVD’s are growing in popularity in the early 2000s, especially late 2001 with the PS2 being finally available. Many 1990s shows are airing in 2002. 2002 is barely removed from the late 1990s despite being post 9/11. 1999 and 2002 are different cultural eras, but not different worlds or planets from each other. They got more similarities than differences. 2002 is closer to the 1990s than today. 2002 is the last year I can say is retro and has nothing in common with today. Early 2000s has more in common with the late 1990s than it does with the core or mid 2000s. 2002 is quintessential early 2000s, but not stereotypical 2000s. 2002 is also not core 2000s as that would not begin until March to August 2003. 2005 has no more 5th generation gaming remnants, no more late 1990s influences, is solidly Web 2.0 internet, has social media with Myspace being popular, cellphones ubiquitous, VHS close to being dead (Last movie on VHS, “A History of Violence,” is released in 2006 which is when I consider VHS dead.), DVD’s dominating VHS and no more 1990s shows. 2005 is peak emo. 2004 or 2005 are peak crunk years. Snap started to rise sometime in 2004 or 2005, but is bigger in 2005. Fall 2004 to 2006 is the infancy of modern culture. 2005 has more in common with today than it does with the 1990s. 2005 is quintessential mid 2000s and probably the most stereotypical 2000s year. 2002 and the first half of 2005 are underrated and under appreciated. Second half of 2005 is overrated and gets too much praise. 2002 seems like a simpler time than 2005. I would rather live in 2002 than 2005. 2002 is my favorite 2000s year. 2002 seems more fun, lively, carefree and better than 2005 in every way. With the 2010s, it is hard for me to say because the 2010s are culturally stagnant. I think I will go with 2014 to 2017 being a big gap in the 2010s, but even that is a stretch. In 2014, the thought of Trump being president is unthinkable and he is seen as a joke reality TV show host although he may have been considering running for president then. In 2017, he is president. 2014 has early 2010s influences, which are dead before 2017 hits. 2010 through October 2013 is an endless 2009 time loop. 2014 through January 2017 is an endless 2013 time loop. 2018 through May 2019 is an endless 2017 time loop. 2020 through October 2021 will probably be an endless 2019 time loop. I think by around November 2021, we will break free from that spell and can say that we are in a different era, the true early 2020s. Hopefully the 2020s bring more changes. I predict and hope in the 2020s, 2020 to 2023, 2023-2026 and 2026-2029 being big 3 year gaps, but for the better. Yeah I agree with this entire post especially with the comparison between 2002 and 2005. When I think of what you could say “classic” 2000s years, 2002 isn’t something that comes to mind or any year from the early 2000s. 2004, 2005, 2006 (maybe even 2003 or 2007 to some extent) are the years I consider to be the “classic” 2000s years because they all incorporate major core 00s elements and/or influences. The early 00s were mostly y2k or late 90s influenced based to be even considered core 2000s same with the late 00s when you saw electropop, the recession, Obama becoming president being big factors that kept it away from being core 2000s. It did seem like 2002 was the last year that VHS dominated DVDs even though they were rising in popularity that year. As for the 2010s, I might say 2011 to 2014 was an even bigger gap than 2014 to 2017. To me 2014 is when all early 2010s culture and influences were dead and we were basically in a new age by 2014. Vine had become the biggest social media platform, ISIS were the biggest threat to the Middle East, Electropop and indie music were past their prime and thus began the rising of EDM/tropical house music. Quintessential 10s shows like Gravity Falls, Steven Universe, Amazing World of Gumball and Adventure Time were at their peak in 2014. The only thing I see in common with both of those years is that Obama was still president. Then again just my thoughts. I’m highly optimistic about the future of the 2020s. While we are on a slow ride with the whole covid situation, it is starting to improve somewhat and that we will see more of a change once we get into 2022 or 2023 at the earliest. I do think that the late 2020s will definitely be a drastic change than what we currently are in the early 2020s. Just wait there are gonna be people remembering covid and saying how it was a life-changing experience just like with 9/11.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 3:15:56 GMT 10
2002 to 2005 seems to be the biggest gap of the 2000s and possibly of the 21st century so far culturally. Those years seem mostly disconnected asides being classic 2000s years, having George W Bush as president, Playstation 2 as the popular gaming console, some music artists and some fashion, although the styles changed a lot between those years. 2002 is the last full year 5th generation gaming consoles are sold, last full year VHS dominated DVD’s until June 2003 according to online statistics, last full year of late 1990s and Y2K influences, pre-Iraq War, pre-crunk, pre-snap, pre-emo, pre-social media (Myspace, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter), before cellphone explosion, last full year of Web 1.0 internet. Do not @ me to argue about DVD and VHS popularity LOL. I know DVD’s are growing in popularity in the early 2000s, especially late 2001 with the PS2 being finally available. Many 1990s shows are airing in 2002. 2002 is barely removed from the late 1990s despite being post 9/11. 1999 and 2002 are different cultural eras, but not different worlds or planets from each other. They got more similarities than differences. 2002 is closer to the 1990s than today. 2002 is the last year I can say is retro and has nothing in common with today. Early 2000s has more in common with the late 1990s than it does with the core or mid 2000s. 2002 is quintessential early 2000s, but not stereotypical 2000s. 2002 is also not core 2000s as that would not begin until March to August 2003. 2005 has no more 5th generation gaming remnants, no more late 1990s influences, is solidly Web 2.0 internet, has social media with Myspace being popular, cellphones ubiquitous, VHS close to being dead (Last movie on VHS, “A History of Violence,” is released in 2006 which is when I consider VHS dead.), DVD’s dominating VHS and no more 1990s shows. 2005 is peak emo. 2004 or 2005 are peak crunk years. Snap started to rise sometime in 2004 or 2005, but is bigger in 2005. Fall 2004 to 2006 is the infancy of modern culture. 2005 has more in common with today than it does with the 1990s. 2005 is quintessential mid 2000s and probably the most stereotypical 2000s year. 2002 and the first half of 2005 are underrated and under appreciated. Second half of 2005 is overrated and gets too much praise. 2002 seems like a simpler time than 2005. I would rather live in 2002 than 2005. 2002 is my favorite 2000s year. 2002 seems more fun, lively, carefree and better than 2005 in every way. With the 2010s, it is hard for me to say because the 2010s are culturally stagnant. I think I will go with 2014 to 2017 being a big gap in the 2010s, but even that is a stretch. In 2014, the thought of Trump being president is unthinkable and he is seen as a joke reality TV show host although he may have been considering running for president then. In 2017, he is president. 2014 has early 2010s influences, which are dead before 2017 hits. 2010 through October 2013 is an endless 2009 time loop. 2014 through January 2017 is an endless 2013 time loop. 2018 through May 2019 is an endless 2017 time loop. 2020 through October 2021 will probably be an endless 2019 time loop. I think by around November 2021, we will break free from that spell and can say that we are in a different era, the true early 2020s. Hopefully the 2020s bring more changes. I predict and hope in the 2020s, 2020 to 2023, 2023-2026 and 2026-2029 being big 3 year gaps, but for the better. Yeah I agree with this entire post especially with the comparison between 2002 and 2005. When I think of what you could say “classic” 2000s years, 2002 isn’t something that comes to mind or any year from the early 2000s. 2004, 2005, 2006 (maybe even 2003 or 2007 to some extent) are the years I consider to be the “classic” 2000s years because they all incorporate major core 00s elements and/or influences. The early 00s were mostly y2k or late 90s influenced based to be even considered core 2000s same with the late 00s when you saw electropop, the recession, Obama becoming president being big factors that kept it away from being core 2000s. It did seem like 2002 was the last year that VHS dominated DVDs even though they were rising in popularity that year. As for the 2010s, I might say 2011 to 2014 was an even bigger gap than 2014 to 2017. To me 2014 is when all early 2010s culture and influences were dead and we were basically in a new age by 2014. Vine had become the biggest social media platform, ISIS were the biggest threat to the Middle East, Electropop and indie music were past their prime and thus began the rising of EDM/tropical house music. Quintessential 10s shows like Gravity Falls, Steven Universe, Amazing World of Gumball and Adventure Time were at their peak in 2014. The only thing I see in common with both of those years is that Obama was still president. Then again just my thoughts. I’m highly optimistic about the future of the 2020s. While we are on a slow ride with the whole covid situation, it is starting to improve somewhat and that we will see more of a change once we get into 2022 or 2023 at the earliest. I do think that the late 2020s will definitely be a drastic change than what we currently are in the early 2020s. Just wait there are gonna be people remembering covid and saying how it was a life-changing experience just like with 9/11. Thank you for agreeing with me. Even if the early 2000s (2000-2002/2003) will always be my favorite part of the 2000s, you are right that it is not definitive or stereotypical of the 2000s. Early 2000s are Y2K and late 1990s influenced, even the fashion, aesthetics, and music. 2002 is the last year that had retained significant amount of Y2K and late 1990s influences, before watering down in 2003 and dying in 2004. 2001 and 2002 are twins. I do not think much separates them culturally. 2001 and 2002 have more in common than 2002 and 2003. Years like 2004, 2005 and 2006 come to mind when people think of the 2000s, maybe 2003 and 2007 because those are the years when the core 2000s began and ended respectively. 2003 is early 2000s and 2007 is late 2000s. 2004-2006 are mid 2000s years being the peak of the core 2000s. You make solid points about the late 2000s not being core 2000s anymore because of ElectroPop and Obama becoming president. I will also add 7th generation gaming kicking off in the late 2000s because of PS3. The 2000s are mostly a 6th generation gaming decade. 2001 and 2002 is when 2000s culture is fresh and developing, but not quite developed yet. 2008 and 2009 is when 2000s culture is stale and close to expiration. I think the early 2000s (late 2001-2002) are a transition into the core 2000s and the late 2000s (late 2007-2008) are a transition out of it. No doubt that DVD’s were becoming this cool, cutting edge technology and VHS becoming old hat. I think I agree with you on 2011 and 2014 being a bigger gap than 2014 and 2017. I respect your opinion. I might change my mind to that. You make fair points there. Early 2010s influences lingered in 2014 imo, although they were close to being insignificant or past their prime like you said. I can easily see 2014 songs like Ariana Grande’s “Break Free” coming out in 2010 or 2011 and Calvin Harris’ “Summer” coming out in 2011 or 2012. In 2011, not everyone had smartphones and streaming did not replace cable. Blockbuster is barely holding on in 2011. By 2014, Blockbuster is dead and streaming is close to overtaking cable TV. Also everyone has smartphones in 2014. 2011 has late 2000s influences. 2014 has none. 2011 is 7th generation gaming, while 2014 is 8th generation gaming. Skeuomorphic aesthetics lingered in 2011, but flat dominated 2014. 2011 is not core 2010s, which probably would not start until spring 2013. 2011 is peak early 2010s. 2014 is arguably peak core 2010s. Obama’s presidency ties 2011 and 2014 together. Yes 2010s shows are at their peak in 2014. 2014 is also peak hipster. I am also highly optimistic about the 2020s. 2020s might be like the 1990s where the decade gets better as they go on. I feel like not all hope is lost and we still have time to make the 2020s a great era. It is still way to early in the 2020s to lose hope that the decade will get better. I will go as far as saying that besides COVID, the 2020s has a possibility to turn out better than the 2010s. COVID is improving. I am betting on 2023 for the change. 2022 at best will be a 2021 continuation imo. The late 2020s will be a drastic change from the early 2020s. The early 2020s will be seen like the 2010s and the late 2020s will be seen like the proto 2030s.
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Post by John Titor on Jun 11, 2021 3:34:44 GMT 10
A comment about the VHS thing
Best Buy & Circuit City stopped selling VHS tapes around 2003, but even in 2003 the VHS section was small compared to the DVD section, The only time someone would buy something VHS onward
would be for recording TV shows onto blank VHS tapes. VHS was dead way before 2006. It was a purely DVD world by 2003. Blockbuster Video moved all of their VHS tapes to a off seen section of the store store by 2004 as well, it was hard to find them. Also commercials stopped saying "Now on DVD and VHS home video" way before 2004 happened.
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Post by slashpop on Jun 11, 2021 4:17:33 GMT 10
A comment about the VHS thing Best Buy & Circuit City stopped selling VHS tapes around 2003, but even in 2003 the VHS section was small compared to the DVD section, The only time someone would buy something VHS onward would be for recording TV shows onto blank VHS tapes. VHS was dead way before 2006. It was a purely DVD world by 2003. Blockbuster Video moved all of their VHS tapes to a off seen section of the store store by 2004 as well, it was hard to find them. Also commercials stopped saying "Now on DVD and VHS home video" way before 2004 happened. I actually discovered more about vhs in 2003-2006 in recent years than I did back then.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Jun 11, 2021 22:34:37 GMT 10
2018-2021
Different US president, pandemic and vaccines, even music is a lot different...
Ask yourself if these could chart in 2021... Especially the second one.
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Post by rainbow on Jun 12, 2021 2:23:06 GMT 10
2018-2021 Different US president, pandemic and vaccines, even music is a lot different... Ask yourself if these could chart in 2021... Especially the second one. It feels like a normal three year gap to me. Music has slight changes but not really big enough to where I could say it’s one of the biggest three year gaps. Late 2018 especially feels a lot like today because that was when TikTok took off.
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Post by y2kbaby on Jun 12, 2021 3:17:54 GMT 10
2002 to 2005 seems to be the biggest gap of the 2000s and possibly of the 21st century so far culturally. Those years seem mostly disconnected asides being classic 2000s years, having George W Bush as president, Playstation 2 as the popular gaming console, some music artists and some fashion, although the styles changed a lot between those years. 2002 is the last full year 5th generation gaming consoles are sold, last full year VHS dominated DVD’s until June 2003 according to online statistics, last full year of late 1990s and Y2K influences, pre-Iraq War, pre-crunk, pre-snap, pre-emo, pre-social media (Myspace, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter), before cellphone explosion, last full year of Web 1.0 internet. Do not @ me to argue about DVD and VHS popularity LOL. I know DVD’s are growing in popularity in the early 2000s, especially late 2001 with the PS2 being finally available. Many 1990s shows are airing in 2002. 2002 is barely removed from the late 1990s despite being post 9/11. 1999 and 2002 are different cultural eras, but not different worlds or planets from each other. They got more similarities than differences. 2002 is closer to the 1990s than today. 2002 is the last year I can say is retro and has nothing in common with today. Early 2000s has more in common with the late 1990s than it does with the core or mid 2000s. 2002 is quintessential early 2000s, but not stereotypical 2000s. 2002 is also not core 2000s as that would not begin until March to August 2003. 2005 has no more 5th generation gaming remnants, no more late 1990s influences, is solidly Web 2.0 internet, has social media with Myspace being popular, cellphones ubiquitous, VHS close to being dead (Last movie on VHS, “A History of Violence,” is released in 2006 which is when I consider VHS dead.), DVD’s dominating VHS and no more 1990s shows. 2005 is peak emo. 2004 or 2005 are peak crunk years. Snap started to rise sometime in 2004 or 2005, but is bigger in 2005. Fall 2004 to 2006 is the infancy of modern culture. 2005 has more in common with today than it does with the 1990s. 2005 is quintessential mid 2000s and probably the most stereotypical 2000s year. 2002 and the first half of 2005 are underrated and under appreciated. Second half of 2005 is overrated and gets too much praise. 2002 seems like a simpler time than 2005. I would rather live in 2002 than 2005. 2002 is my favorite 2000s year. 2002 seems more fun, lively, carefree and better than 2005 in every way. With the 2010s, it is hard for me to say because the 2010s are culturally stagnant. I think I will go with 2014 to 2017 being a big gap in the 2010s, but even that is a stretch. In 2014, the thought of Trump being president is unthinkable and he is seen as a joke reality TV show host although he may have been considering running for president then. In 2017, he is president. 2014 has early 2010s influences, which are dead before 2017 hits. 2010 through October 2013 is an endless 2009 time loop. 2014 through January 2017 is an endless 2013 time loop. 2018 through May 2019 is an endless 2017 time loop. 2020 through October 2021 will probably be an endless 2019 time loop. I think by around November 2021, we will break free from that spell and can say that we are in a different era, the true early 2020s. Hopefully the 2020s bring more changes. I predict and hope in the 2020s, 2020 to 2023, 2023-2026 and 2026-2029 being big 3 year gaps, but for the better. Agree with most of what your saying except when you say that 2005 has more more in common with now than the 1990s. I believe 2005 has more in common with the late 1990s (specifically 1999) than today.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Jun 12, 2021 10:25:56 GMT 10
2002 to 2005 seems to be the biggest gap of the 2000s and possibly of the 21st century so far culturally. Those years seem mostly disconnected asides being classic 2000s years, having George W Bush as president, Playstation 2 as the popular gaming console, some music artists and some fashion, although the styles changed a lot between those years. 2002 is the last full year 5th generation gaming consoles are sold, last full year VHS dominated DVD’s until June 2003 according to online statistics, last full year of late 1990s and Y2K influences, pre-Iraq War, pre-crunk, pre-snap, pre-emo, pre-social media (Myspace, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter), before cellphone explosion, last full year of Web 1.0 internet. Do not @ me to argue about DVD and VHS popularity LOL. I know DVD’s are growing in popularity in the early 2000s, especially late 2001 with the PS2 being finally available. Many 1990s shows are airing in 2002. 2002 is barely removed from the late 1990s despite being post 9/11. 1999 and 2002 are different cultural eras, but not different worlds or planets from each other. They got more similarities than differences. 2002 is closer to the 1990s than today. 2002 is the last year I can say is retro and has nothing in common with today. Early 2000s has more in common with the late 1990s than it does with the core or mid 2000s. 2002 is quintessential early 2000s, but not stereotypical 2000s. 2002 is also not core 2000s as that would not begin until March to August 2003. 2005 has no more 5th generation gaming remnants, no more late 1990s influences, is solidly Web 2.0 internet, has social media with Myspace being popular, cellphones ubiquitous, VHS close to being dead (Last movie on VHS, “A History of Violence,” is released in 2006 which is when I consider VHS dead.), DVD’s dominating VHS and no more 1990s shows. 2005 is peak emo. 2004 or 2005 are peak crunk years. Snap started to rise sometime in 2004 or 2005, but is bigger in 2005. Fall 2004 to 2006 is the infancy of modern culture. 2005 has more in common with today than it does with the 1990s. 2005 is quintessential mid 2000s and probably the most stereotypical 2000s year. 2002 and the first half of 2005 are underrated and under appreciated. Second half of 2005 is overrated and gets too much praise. 2002 seems like a simpler time than 2005. I would rather live in 2002 than 2005. 2002 is my favorite 2000s year. 2002 seems more fun, lively, carefree and better than 2005 in every way. With the 2010s, it is hard for me to say because the 2010s are culturally stagnant. I think I will go with 2014 to 2017 being a big gap in the 2010s, but even that is a stretch. In 2014, the thought of Trump being president is unthinkable and he is seen as a joke reality TV show host although he may have been considering running for president then. In 2017, he is president. 2014 has early 2010s influences, which are dead before 2017 hits. 2010 through October 2013 is an endless 2009 time loop. 2014 through January 2017 is an endless 2013 time loop. 2018 through May 2019 is an endless 2017 time loop. 2020 through October 2021 will probably be an endless 2019 time loop. I think by around November 2021, we will break free from that spell and can say that we are in a different era, the true early 2020s. Hopefully the 2020s bring more changes. I predict and hope in the 2020s, 2020 to 2023, 2023-2026 and 2026-2029 being big 3 year gaps, but for the better. Agree with most of what your saying except when you say that 2005 has more more in common with now than the 1990s. I believe 2005 has more in common with the late 1990s (specifically 1999) than today. I think it shares more in common with 1999 than it does with 2011 lol.
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Post by slashpop on Jun 12, 2021 15:25:26 GMT 10
Agree with most of what your saying except when you say that 2005 has more more in common with now than the 1990s. I believe 2005 has more in common with the late 1990s (specifically 1999) than today. I think it shares more in common with 1999 than it does with 2011 lol. The way I see it is that only the first 2-3 months of 2005, which felt like extension of late 2004 than the real 2005, share something vaguely in common with mid 2003 at the very most. The rest of 2005 is pure mid 2000s with bits and pieces of incoming late 2000s culture.
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