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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 3:33:38 GMT 10
By fake 2020s, do you mean leaning towards late 2010s or in between late 2010s and early 2020s? I think many things are both, somethings are already fully 2020s just there are tons of other things that aren’t or vaguely appear to be on the surface or tagged that way but aren’t. I think fair to use this word since we aren’t purely in the early 2020s. There are bunch of things which are already exclusively early 2020s ex Covid, PS5, pop punk, Biden,mid- late 90s/Y2K fashion, the problem is the transitional and vaguely 2020s stuff getting confused due to looks with true early 2020s things. I mean until we reach that moment where a chunk of things including certain genres stop being transitional but exclusively 2020s, not just vaguely or visually, we would would stop being in the fake early 2020s in that regard or in general, I would guess any time towards the end of this year to some point in 2024, it would be sad if it took until 2025, 5 years into the decade for this to happen. We definitely haven’t reached that turning point like in 2001 and other years. We are absolutely purely 100% in the early 2020s and that's obvious by the pandemic. The fake early 2020s were in late 2019/early 2020 and ended in March 2020 which is when the real early 2020s started. The only distingshing factor (and it's a really big one) is the pandemic. Neither the fake or real early '20s have nothing to do with the late '10s which ended in 2019. But of course we still have late 2010s holdovers still around.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Jan 27, 2022 4:15:03 GMT 10
I think many things are both, somethings are already fully 2020s just there are tons of other things that aren’t or vaguely appear to be on the surface or tagged that way but aren’t. I think fair to use this word since we aren’t purely in the early 2020s. There are bunch of things which are already exclusively early 2020s ex Covid, PS5, pop punk, Biden,mid- late 90s/Y2K fashion, the problem is the transitional and vaguely 2020s stuff getting confused due to looks with true early 2020s things. I mean until we reach that moment where a chunk of things including certain genres stop being transitional but exclusively 2020s, not just vaguely or visually, we would would stop being in the fake early 2020s in that regard or in general, I would guess any time towards the end of this year to some point in 2024, it would be sad if it took until 2025, 5 years into the decade for this to happen. We definitely haven’t reached that turning point like in 2001 and other years. We are absolutely purely 100% in the early 2020s and that's obvious by the pandemic. The fake early 2020s were in late 2019/early 2020 and ended in March 2020 which is when the real early 2020s started. The only distingshing factor (and it's a really big one) is the pandemic. Neither the fake or real early '20s have nothing to do with the late '10s which ended in 2019. But of course we still have late 2010s holdovers still around. IMO March 2020 through January 2021 was the transition from the 2020 Vision Era (Fake Early 2020s) to the Early 2020s, could be called the "Lockdown Era" and definitely leans Early 2020s. So much stuff happened in that period and the dust kinda settled around January 2021 after Biden was inaugurated and vaccine rollouts started. 2020 Vision Era - Fall 2018 or Spring 2019 to February or March 2020 (leans late 2010s) Lockdown Era - March 2020 to January 2021 (leans early 2020s) Early 2020s - January 2021 to now
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 4:49:30 GMT 10
We are absolutely purely 100% in the early 2020s and that's obvious by the pandemic. The fake early 2020s were in late 2019/early 2020 and ended in March 2020 which is when the real early 2020s started. The only distingshing factor (and it's a really big one) is the pandemic. Neither the fake or real early '20s have nothing to do with the late '10s which ended in 2019. But of course we still have late 2010s holdovers still around. IMO March 2020 through January 2021 was the transition from the 2020 Vision Era (Fake Early 2020s) to the Early 2020s, could be called the "Lockdown Era" and definitely leans Early 2020s. So much stuff happened in that period and the dust kinda settled around January 2021 after Biden was inaugurated and vaccine rollouts started. 2020 Vision Era - Fall 2018 or Spring 2019 to February or March 2020 (leans late 2010s) Lockdown Era - March 2020 to January 2021 (leans early 2020s) Early 2020s - January 2021 to now The fake early 2020s were really January to March 2020. That was the transitional period. Covid was around, but it wasn't a pandemic yet. We're in peak early 2020s culture right now. All of 2020 since the pandemic started was 100% early 2020s. Obviously we still have 2010s holdovers, and we may even have it into the mid 2020s. But it's a completely different era and not only a different era but a different world. The increase in punk songs in 2021 is only a sign of what the mid 2020s will bring us. There will probably be a lot of punk music in the mid 2020s. Remember, the mid 2020s are coming up fairly soon. It will start in May of next year (numerically speaking). I could see it starting even earlier than that culturally if the endemic begins later this year.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Jan 27, 2022 5:02:18 GMT 10
IMO March 2020 through January 2021 was the transition from the 2020 Vision Era (Fake Early 2020s) to the Early 2020s, could be called the "Lockdown Era" and definitely leans Early 2020s. So much stuff happened in that period and the dust kinda settled around January 2021 after Biden was inaugurated and vaccine rollouts started. 2020 Vision Era - Fall 2018 or Spring 2019 to February or March 2020 (leans late 2010s) Lockdown Era - March 2020 to January 2021 (leans early 2020s) Early 2020s - January 2021 to now The fake early 2020s were really January to March 2020. That was the transitional period. Covid was around, but it wasn't a pandemic yet. We're in peak early 2020s culture right now. All of 2020 since the pandemic started was 100% early 2020s. Obviously we still have 2010s holdovers, and we may even have it into the mid 2020s. But it's a completely different era and not only a different era but a different world. The increase in punk songs in 2021 is only a sign of what the mid 2020s will bring us. There will probably be a lot of punk music in the mid 2020s. Remember, the mid 2020s are coming up fairly soon. It will start in May of next year (numerically speaking). I could see it starting even earlier than that culturally if the endemic begins later this year. hyperpop also started influencing pop and rap around 2021 which I can see continuing into the mid 2020s. It might also influence punk too. Pure hyperpop I don't see becoming that big but I see it influencing other genres. Early 2020s will be remembered for throwback pop, melodic and bounce trap, and the initial comeback of punk.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 27, 2022 5:11:25 GMT 10
I think many things are both, somethings are already fully 2020s just there are tons of other things that aren’t or vaguely appear to be on the surface or tagged that way but aren’t. I think fair to use this word since we aren’t purely in the early 2020s. There are bunch of things which are already exclusively early 2020s ex Covid, PS5, pop punk, Biden,mid- late 90s/Y2K fashion, the problem is the transitional and vaguely 2020s stuff getting confused due to looks with true early 2020s things. I mean until we reach that moment where a chunk of things including certain genres stop being transitional but exclusively 2020s, not just vaguely or visually, we would would stop being in the fake early 2020s in that regard or in general, I would guess any time towards the end of this year to some point in 2024, it would be sad if it took until 2025, 5 years into the decade for this to happen. We definitely haven’t reached that turning point like in 2001 and other years. We are absolutely purely 100% in the early 2020s and that's obvious by the pandemic. The fake early 2020s were in mid 2019/early 2020 and ended in March 2020 which is when the real early 2020s started. The only distingshing factor (and it's a really big one) is the pandemic. Neither the fake or real early '20s have nothing to do with the late '10s which ended in 2019. But of course we still have late 2010s holdovers still around. fixed
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 8:30:07 GMT 10
I don't think the pop-punk wave will last long, maybe through mid 2024 at the latest, so pop-punk will be more of an early 2020s trend. Sometime in 2023 though mid 2024 could be the decline of pop punk. Fewer pop-punk songs will be made in the mid 2020s. Scene or goth might take over. I don't see mid 2020s culture beginning soon, despite the mid 2020s numerically beginning in May 2023. I think 2023 will still be early 2020s culturally overall, with maybe the earliest hints of mid 2020s culture. Q1 2024 might still be the early 2020s culturally. There's no way to tell. I don't believe it is as big of a deal as a certain poster on this site insists anyways. Look at the current Top 40. How many songs are pop punk? news.iheart.com/featured/charts/top-40/I see lots of hip-hop, trap, throwback songs, and bedroom pop as well as mainstays like Adele and the Jonas Brothers, but not a lot of pop punk.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 27, 2022 8:35:47 GMT 10
I don't think the pop-punk wave will last long, maybe through mid 2024 at the latest, so pop-punk will be more of an early 2020s trend. Sometime in 2023 though mid 2024 could be the decline of pop punk. Fewer pop-punk songs will be made in the mid 2020s. Scene or goth might take over. I don't see mid 2020s culture beginning soon, despite the mid 2020s numerically beginning in May 2023. I think 2023 will still be early 2020s culturally overall, with maybe the earliest hints of mid 2020s culture. Q1 2024 might still be the early 2020s culturally. There's no way to tell. I don't believe it is as big of a deal as a certain poster on this site insists anyways. Look at the current Top 40. How many songs are pop punk? news.iheart.com/featured/charts/top-40/I see lots of hip-hop, trap, throwback songs, and bedroom pop as well as mainstays like Adele and the Jonas Brothers, but not a lot of pop punk. Pop punk isn't on the charts because it's still just a very popular subculture. It's getting there but not quite genuinely mainstream yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 8:41:17 GMT 10
I don't believe it is as big of a deal as a certain poster on this site insists anyways. Look at the current Top 40. How many songs are pop punk? news.iheart.com/featured/charts/top-40/I see lots of hip-hop, trap, throwback songs, and bedroom pop as well as mainstays like Adele and the Jonas Brothers, but not a lot of pop punk. Pop punk isn't on the charts because it's still just a very popular subculture. It's getting there but not quite genuinely mainstream yet. My point exactly. One particular poster constantly promotes pop punk as the biggest thing in music right now but it isn't, at least not yet. When it starts to fill up the Top 40 charts then we're genuinely in a new pop punk era. I've been getting into electro swing lately and would love if it had more mainstream popularity, but I'm not going to try to convince everyone that electro swing is the sound of the 2020s.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 27, 2022 8:53:28 GMT 10
Pop punk isn't on the charts because it's still just a very popular subculture. It's getting there but not quite genuinely mainstream yet. My point exactly. One particular poster constantly promotes pop punk as the biggest thing in music right now but it isn't, at least not yet. When it starts to fill up the Top 40 charts then we're genuinely in a new pop punk era. I've been getting into electro swing lately and would love if it had more mainstream popularity, but I'm not going to try to convince everyone that electro swing is the sound of the 2020s. It's basically the thought process where if one outlier happens where one song of a genre charts high(Good 4 U) then the entire genre gets popular. Same logic everyone uses to say electropop took off in late 2008 because of Just Dance when everything else that year was 00s music. I'd say until we see a year where there's at least 5 pop punk hits on the top 40, it isn't mainstream.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Jan 27, 2022 9:01:58 GMT 10
My point exactly. One particular poster constantly promotes pop punk as the biggest thing in music right now but it isn't, at least not yet. When it starts to fill up the Top 40 charts then we're genuinely in a new pop punk era. I've been getting into electro swing lately and would love if it had more mainstream popularity, but I'm not going to try to convince everyone that electro swing is the sound of the 2020s. It's basically the thought process where if one outlier happens where one song of a genre charts high(Good 4 U) then the entire genre gets popular. Same logic everyone uses to say electropop took off in late 2008 because of Just Dance when everything else that year was 00s music. I'd say until we see a year where there's at least 5 pop punk hits on the top 40, it isn't mainstream. tbf there was also "Mood" by 24kGoldn if that counts "That's What I Want" by Lil Nas X. There was also Machine Gun Kelly.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 27, 2022 9:10:42 GMT 10
It's basically the thought process where if one outlier happens where one song of a genre charts high(Good 4 U) then the entire genre gets popular. Same logic everyone uses to say electropop took off in late 2008 because of Just Dance when everything else that year was 00s music. I'd say until we see a year where there's at least 5 pop punk hits on the top 40, it isn't mainstream. tbf there was also "Mood" by 24kGoldn if that counts "That's What I Want" by Lil Nas X. There was also Machine Gun Kelly. There is a pop punk influence in those songs but it's still a rap song first and foremost. It does show that pop punk is becoming more influential.
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Post by mc98 on Jan 27, 2022 9:30:12 GMT 10
tbf there was also "Mood" by 24kGoldn if that counts "That's What I Want" by Lil Nas X. There was also Machine Gun Kelly. There is a pop punk influence in those songs but it's still a rap song first and foremost. It does show that pop punk is becoming more influential. Don't forget that abcdefu song.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Jan 27, 2022 9:30:17 GMT 10
tbf there was also "Mood" by 24kGoldn if that counts "That's What I Want" by Lil Nas X. There was also Machine Gun Kelly. There is a pop punk influence in those songs but it's still a rap song first and foremost. It does show that pop punk is becoming more influential. Mood yes, but "That's What I Want" is definitely not a rap song lmao.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 27, 2022 9:50:31 GMT 10
There is a pop punk influence in those songs but it's still a rap song first and foremost. It does show that pop punk is becoming more influential. Mood yes, but "That's What I Want" is definitely not a rap song lmao. Did it chart?
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 27, 2022 9:51:33 GMT 10
There is a pop punk influence in those songs but it's still a rap song first and foremost. It does show that pop punk is becoming more influential. Don't forget that abcdefu song. Is it charting?
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