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Post by Htiaf on Feb 26, 2021 8:00:22 GMT 10
* The early 2000s were a very polarizing time for music. If you weren't a fan of the angsty, "macho" nu-metal, preppy pop-punk, radio-friendly and "middle-of-the-road" post-grunge, or the very flamboyant bubblegum-pop that was on the charts, there really wasn't much else on offer. I actually believe they were a noticeable step-down in quality in comparison to the late '90s. * The 1950s were a terrible decade for a huge variety of reasons, but they did have some redeeming qualities. The Looney Tunes theatrical shorts that were released during the decade would easily have to be one of the greatest cartoons of all time, and if you didn't come from a minority background, I get the impression that they would have been a decent decade to have been a kid in. Also, rock 'n roll's breakthrough into the mainstream must have felt really exciting at the time for the younger people of the day and I can understand why people got enjoyment out of listening to the songs. * I don't really understand the appeal of the '80s. I mean, I can understand the groundbreaking significance of MTV and why people who were old enough at the time may have nostalgia for them, but they don't really strike me as having been that great of a decade to live through. Especially the late '80s. * I have a soft spot for 2008 and I actually like a lot of the songs that were released that year. I agree with you about the 80’s. I personally think the 80’s are a very overrated decade as I said in my first comment. I love 80’s music, but the fashion was awful, the politics of the 80’s rub me the wrong way for some reason, ( I might be a hypocrite as far as these 2 points go because you can say the same thing about 00’s fashion and politics but 80’s fashion was even worse in my opinion, plus 00’s fashion is nostalgic for me in a weird sort of way since most of my childhood was in the 00’s ) and I think 80’s movies are overhyped. The 80’s are just so cheesy in a way I don’t enjoy also, even though I didn’t live though the decade this is my impression of them from what I can tell. I prefer the 90’s & even 00’s way more than the 80’s, especially the 90’s I even love 90’s fashion. I don’t care much for the 80’s. They’re a pretty cringe worthy decade tbh.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Feb 26, 2021 8:24:40 GMT 10
* The early 2000s were a very polarizing time for music. If you weren't a fan of the angsty, "macho" nu-metal, preppy pop-punk, radio-friendly and "middle-of-the-road" post-grunge, or the very flamboyant bubblegum-pop that was on the charts, there really wasn't much else on offer. I actually believe they were a noticeable step-down in quality in comparison to the late '90s. * The 1950s were a terrible decade for a huge variety of reasons, but they did have some redeeming qualities. The Looney Tunes theatrical shorts that were released during the decade would easily have to be one of the greatest cartoons of all time, and if you didn't come from a minority background, I get the impression that they would have been a decent decade to have been a kid in. Also, rock 'n roll's breakthrough into the mainstream must have felt really exciting at the time for the younger people of the day and I can understand why people got enjoyment out of listening to the songs. * I don't really understand the appeal of the '80s. I mean, I can understand the groundbreaking significance of MTV and why people who were old enough at the time may have nostalgia for them, but they don't really strike me as having been that great of a decade to live through. Especially the late '80s. * I have a soft spot for 2008 and I actually like a lot of the songs that were released that year. I agree with you about the 80’s. I personally think the 80’s are a very overrated decade as I said in my first comment. I love 80’s music, but the fashion was awful, the politics of the 80’s rub me the wrong way for some reason, ( I might be a hypocrite as far as these 2 points go because you can say the same thing about 00’s fashion and politics but 80’s fashion was even worse in my opinion, plus 00’s fashion is nostalgic for me in a weird sort of way since most of my childhood was in the 00’s ) and I think 80’s movies are overhyped. The 80’s are just so cheesy in a way I don’t enjoy also, even though I didn’t live though the decade this is my impression of them from what I can tell. I prefer the 90’s & even 00’s way more than the 80’s, especially the 90’s I even love 90’s fashion. I don’t care much for the 80’s. Not to mention just HOW long the 80s are being idolized for. 80s nostalgia was at it's biggest in 2002. At that rate, what we should be idolizing now is the 2000s (including, yes, 2002 itself!)! But nope! 80s 80s 80s, ugh it's annoying. 2002 was longer ago now than most of the 80s were then. It's ridiculous. Maybe we should just stop viewing most perceptions of "THE 80s!!!!" as callbacks to the decade and more just its own very long-in-the-tooth music genre, because any appreciation I might have for the 80s is instantly overruled by just how long they've been idolized for. Nostalgia used to come in 20 year cycles, but I guess people stopped being creative and just kept the same nostalgia cycle for ANOTHER 20 years. Not saying there isn't any call backs for the 90s or 00s, but it's still overwhelmingly 80s.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 26, 2021 8:32:53 GMT 10
I got another. I hate how PC pop culture became last decade. Now don't get me wrong, politics has always been a thing in pop culture, and I don't particularly care if LGBT+ or minority characters were main characters as long as the story and characters are well-written. But media began to suffer greatly due to political correctness being the focal point of many movies, TV shows, and video games. Ghostbusters 2016, the new Ocean's 13 with an all-female cast (just because), Gamergate fiasco, and so on. It wouldn't surprise me that these are some of the reasons why we keep seeing reboots, sequels, and remakes in cinema nowadays. I kinda feel like we're going down a dark road with pop culture in the near future. 100% agree with you on this, that was one of the worst aspects of the 2010s and I can only see it getting worse in the future. Now even Mr Potato Head has been rebranded because of PC culture:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 10:06:31 GMT 10
Lmao I guess it's my turn 2 get booed & have stuff thrown @ me. I'm with u on all that. I also noticed those changes. I agree that 2019 felt different from 2016-2018, but it also didn't feel like 2020, so it was a unique year. Most long running 2010s TV & movie franchises ended throughout 2019. A majority of 2010s cartoons ended in 2018 like Adventure Time, but 2018 felt late 2010s & lots of long running 2010s shows were airing. I liked the vibe of 2019. 2019 had more diversity in music. Besides emo, I think R&B or pop began 2 make a comeback in 2019. Trap didn't seem as dominant in 2019 like it did from 2016-2018. 2019 fashion was kinda different from 2018 with more 2000s nostalgia. All I remember hearing on the radio in 2018 was trap. 2018 felt stale. Fall 2018 might be the redeemable part of 2018 with minor hints of change. I might be biased cuz of my personal life. I don't know if Fall 2018 should be included in the transition cuz Core 2010s influences were dead, hipster was dead, AirPods were becoming popular, TikTok & Bilie Eilish were creeping in, but didn't blow up until Spring 2019. I remember everyone watched TikTok & listened 2 Bilie Eilish through their AirPods in 2019. I feel that culture now is in a transitional state with us shaking off the late 2010s cob webs. Fall 2018 or Spring 2019-Summer 2021 might be a transitional era. I call it the "2020 Vision Era." I predict that by Fall 2021, the transition will be over & we'll be in a total early 2020s world as that's the 1st full school year of Biden's presidency & 9th gen gaming with PS5. It honestly feels weird having Biden as president, not gonna lie. I don't exactly group today in the exact same era as 2019. I view that period as what might be called the "Proto-2020 Vision Era" (April 2019 - March 2020). Basically, it's what the rest of 2020 and 2021 could have been like, but it ultimately and untimely fell flat after COVID. Post-March 2020 to now, we're in that Early 2020s Pandemic era which will probably last well into 2022, although less of a worry. I feel icky grouping a carefree optimistic year like 2019 with a dark, depressing, stale year like 2020. I like those names. IMO in terms of culture: Spring 2017-Winter 2018/2019: Late 2010s 2018: Quintessential Year Spring 2019-Winter 2019/2020: Proto 2020 Vision Era (What the Early 2020s could’ve been) Spring 2020-Summer 2021: Dystopian 2020 Vision Era (COVID) Fall 2021-(through summer 2023 or winter 2023/2024)?: Early 2020s 2022 or 2023: Quintessential Year
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Post by John Titor on Feb 26, 2021 10:41:42 GMT 10
By late this summer /early fall you most likely know the direction things are headed usually by the 1 year things start to become pretty clear, 2001, 2011 etc ( this does not apply to everything tho) but we did have a new president take office in 2001, it also took until Fall 2001 for ps2 to really take off due to shortages and lack of good games. Right now we have Ps5 and xbox series X out, and it's looking like next 7 months will be the "killer app" games Also Spider-man 3 (the multiverse one with the 2000s Spider-man in it) is coming out December 2021 ONLY in theaters, so expect the world to be back to normal by that time. Hell they are even saying things will be back by June due to the vaccine. So around August-September 2021, early 2020s culture will become more clear. I agree that around the “1” year, a decade’s identity becomes clear. I’m sure 2021 will follow that pattern. Right now kinda mirrors the 2000-2001 school year with that “off brand soda” feeling. Almost everyone wants distance learning, social distancing, masks, quarantine & COVID 2 be over. With the way stuff is headed, I expect the world 2 be normal by fall or December 2021. Not 2 mention schools, colleges & universities will return on campus this fall. I feel like June might be 2 generous 4 everything 2 return 2 normal, but maybe that’s just me. I think a decade is in full force by “3” or “4” year. I feel that the 2020s will be full force by 2023 or 2024 which is when the core 2020s will begin & late 2010s influences will be obsolete. it mirrors the 2000-2001 school year in a ughhh is this over yet kind way. The only difference is we don't have brain dead teen pop on it's last legs and stupid fads like Razr Scooters.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Feb 26, 2021 12:56:53 GMT 10
it mirrors the 2000-2001 school year in a ughhh is this over yet kind way. The only difference is we don't have brain dead teen pop on it's last legs and stupid fads like Razr Scooters. True. I think people right now people sick of trap & alt pop which have been dominant since around 2013-2017, but then again pop punk & or emo r returning 2 sorta balance music out. Thing about trap, though, is that it's changed quite a lot since the Early/Mid 2010s, hell, even since 2016/2017. Not to mention the growing NY Drill scene. 2013/20142016/20172020/2021
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Post by fusefan on Feb 26, 2021 14:19:42 GMT 10
Even though when they were going on I didn’t like them That much but now that time has passed I can officially say I miss the 2000s more than the 90s. I have more feelings for 2007 than I do say... 1997 personally. (Probably because I had a better time socializing with others than I did a decade earlier) And 2001 was a pretty decent year IMO up until 9/11. The only years from the 2000s that sucked Are 2002, 2006 and 2009. Both eras had lots of awesome music, but I’ll say I like the late 70s/early 80s a little better than the later 60s/early 70s. I’m a garage/psych rock fan, but I’m also a disco/funk and new wave fan.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 26, 2021 14:40:45 GMT 10
The only years from the 2000s that sucked Are 2002, 2006 and 2009. What didn't you like about 2002? Admittedly, I've only got vague memories from then so I can't really form an opinion either way, but the impression I get when I look back on the releases/trends from then is that it would have been a decent year to experience.
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Post by fusefan on Feb 26, 2021 14:45:13 GMT 10
The only years from the 2000s that sucked Are 2002, 2006 and 2009. What didn't you like about 2002? Admittedly, I've only got vague memories from then so I can't really form an opinion either way, but the impression I get when I look back on the releases/trends from then is that it would have been a decent year to experience. Mostly for personal reasons than pop culture reasons. 6th grade and that summer being around people I didn’t want to be around and I’m sure the feeling was mutual. My teacher, some classmates, and having to go to my Great Aunt and Uncles house in the mornings and during summer and be around the kids they watched (they ran a daycare from their home) and I could not get along with. Back in the 90s I had to spend my summers there so I got the same crap from kids during the summer like I did at school. 🙄 The summers of 2000 and 2001 were refreshing because my older cousin looked after me and I genuinely had a fun time not dealing with people who bullied me. So having to go back to my great aunts house and deal with some of those same kids from 3+ years earlier was a step down. Thankfully summer 2003+ I was on my own and didn’t have to go back there again!
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Post by rainbow on Mar 6, 2021 5:12:50 GMT 10
2012 is an extremely overrated year and there’s nothing special about it.
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Post by vhsfan0101 on Mar 6, 2021 6:50:34 GMT 10
The 2010s was a great decade. The 2010s was a pretty calm decade. Hipster culture was awesome.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 6, 2021 7:08:45 GMT 10
The 2010s was a great decade. The 2010s was a pretty calm decade. Hipster culture was awesome. out lol
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Post by dudewitdausername on Mar 6, 2021 10:53:45 GMT 10
2013, 2015, 2017 are boring, overhyped & overrated. 2012, 2014, 2016, 2018 were better. 2019 was better than 2007-2018. 2019 was the best year of the 2010s. Not sure 2019 was better than 2007 or anything between 2010-2013, but I'd agree with it being better than 2014-2018. IMO 2013 was the best year of the 2010s, but you could also make a case for 2011.
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Post by rainbow on Mar 6, 2021 23:44:38 GMT 10
The 90’s were not “the last good decade”. The 2000’s were just as good and are way too under appreciated.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 7, 2021 0:34:30 GMT 10
The 90’s were not “the last good decade”. The 2000’s were just as good and are way too under appreciated. This is coming from someone who was born in the late 80s and got to experience all of the 90s & 2000s. The 2000s were better. There I said it lol
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