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Post by slashpop on Mar 25, 2021 8:16:15 GMT 10
2001 has more in common with 1995 than 2011. Well, I mean, it is closer to 1995 than 2011, so that would be obvious. Not really. Mid 90s and early 2000s seem worlds apart on the surface and they are in a number of ways. Every few years in the 90s felt very changeful compared to other decades However there are a number of connections, overlaps and carryovers to some extent between years like 95 and 01.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Mar 25, 2021 11:59:29 GMT 10
Well, I mean, it is closer to 1995 than 2011, so that would be obvious. Not really. Mid 90s and early 2000s seem worlds apart on the surface and they are in a number of ways. Every few years in the 90s felt very changeful compared to other decades However there are a number of connections, overlaps and carryovers to some extent between years like 95 and 01. Saying "2001 is closer to 1995 than 2011" is literally a true statement, there's no argument there... And you're the one who originally said it is and now you're saying "not really"? Also, 1995 and 2001 feels like a 6 year difference in terms of music and technology to me, not world's apart...
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Post by jaydawg89 on Mar 25, 2021 12:41:51 GMT 10
Not really. Mid 90s and early 2000s seem worlds apart on the surface and they are in a number of ways. Every few years in the 90s felt very changeful compared to other decades However there are a number of connections, overlaps and carryovers to some extent between years like 95 and 01. Saying "2001 is closer to 1995 than 2011" is literally a true statement, there's no argument there... And you're the one who originally said it is and now you're saying "not really"? Also, 1995 and 2001 feels like a 6 year difference in terms of music and technology to me, not world's apart... They sorta did feel worlds apart though (especially the technology), you would know that if you lived through that period of time. Slashpop is 100% right about every few year of the 90s feeling different, 1989 and 1995 seemed worlds apart too.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 25, 2021 12:47:21 GMT 10
Saying "2001 is closer to 1995 than 2011" is literally a true statement, there's no argument there... And you're the one who originally said it is and now you're saying "not really"? Also, 1995 and 2001 feels like a 6 year difference in terms of music and technology to me, not world's apart... They sorta did feel worlds apart though (especially the technology), you would know that if you lived through that period of time. Slashpop is 100% right about every few year of the 90s feeling different, 1989 and 1995 seemed worlds apart too. Yeah Jay Dawg makes a point, me Jay Dawg, and Slashpop all lived thru the 90s and 2000s and they all felt different. We started the 90s with cheese , the middle was peak grunge depressing and ended it with Y2k and upbeat teen pop. All 3 of those eras felt completely different and many many more years apart then they actually were. We started the 90s with Sega Genesis and ended it with Sega Dreamcast. Don't get me started with 2000s lol we started it off with the remains of y2k , then the post 9/11 early 2000s era, then the mid 2000s of emo and myspace and then ended it with electropop , a recession and Obama. Too much stuff happened from 2001 - 2011 to make it feel connected. Forget 1991 - 2001, 2001-2011 feels so far away like FAR FAR light years away lol The way Tv was, the way society was, the way movies were, how TV shows were an event (only thing close is Game of Thrones) even food tasted different LOL The whole VIBE was 101% different then 2011.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Mar 25, 2021 13:25:03 GMT 10
The way Tv was, the way society was, the way movies were, how TV shows were an event (only thing close is Game of Thrones) even food tasted different LOL The whole VIBE was 101% different then 2011. Breaking Bad was also huge in 2011 tbf.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 25, 2021 13:27:18 GMT 10
The way Tv was, the way society was, the way movies were, how TV shows were an event (only thing close is Game of Thrones) even food tasted different LOL The whole VIBE was 101% different then 2011. Breaking Bad was also huge in 2011 tbf. breaking bad 2 yes and Walking dead and Game of Thrones, where in the 2000s every show had that water cooler talk. Example 2001 - 2003 " OMG did you see what happened on Malcolm in the Middle last night ...what Reese did OMG" " Omg did you see what The Rock did to Triple H on Smackdown last night omg " " OMG did you see what happened on the Sopranos last night OMGGG TONY went nuts" " OMG did u see DBZ yesterday, OMG Pikkon murked Frieza and King cold OMG" " EWW DID U SEE what they did on Fear Factor last night OMGGG" " OMG Did u Smallville last night, Clark really did that..." " OMG did u see what they did on Punk'd last night ? " " did you see that video that came on MTV 2 this morning, it slaps!" " Did you see The Simpsons last night Homer Got high HAHAHAH" (despite falling of in 97 hard Simpsons was still somewhat water cooler talk) That is just the early 2000s lol almost every show that was on the next day @ school had a "omg did u see what they did" Almost every show was must see tv. It was more mono culture, where now you have tons of netflix shows and yes some shows do get buzz,but it's not Universal the world is watching feeling like the 2000s.
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Post by slashpop on Mar 25, 2021 13:43:11 GMT 10
Not really. Mid 90s and early 2000s seem worlds apart on the surface and they are in a number of ways. Every few years in the 90s felt very changeful compared to other decades However there are a number of connections, overlaps and carryovers to some extent between years like 95 and 01. Saying "2001 is closer to 1995 than 2011" is literally a true statement, there's no argument there... And you're the one who originally said it is and now you're saying "not really"? Also, 1995 and 2001 feels like a 6 year difference in terms of music and technology to me, not world's apart... You didn’t understand. Being closer and having more commonalities between 1995 than 2011 doesn’t mean they are similar or barely different eras. To the average person on the surface they may seem even more different because they don’t necessarily make the few links between both periods is what I’m saying. No it almost felt like a 10 year difference back then between the atmosphere of starting to come closer to the end of the mid 90s and the late Y2K era entering the early 2000s. I was well into my teens in the early 2000s so I would have a sense of this.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Mar 25, 2021 14:01:17 GMT 10
Saying "2001 is closer to 1995 than 2011" is literally a true statement, there's no argument there... And you're the one who originally said it is and now you're saying "not really"? Also, 1995 and 2001 feels like a 6 year difference in terms of music and technology to me, not world's apart... You didn’t understand. Being closer and having more commonalities between 1995 than 2011 doesn’t mean they are similar or barely different eras. To the average person on the surface they may seem even more different because they don’t necessarily make the few links between both periods is what I’m saying. No it almost felt like a 10 year difference back then between the atmosphere of starting to come closer to the end of the mid 90s and the late Y2K era entering the early 2000s. I was well into my teens in the early 2000s so I would have a sense of this. Yeah, I got you. Would you consider 1991 as being closer in pop culture and everything to 2001 than 2001 is to 2011?
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Post by slashpop on Mar 25, 2021 16:14:17 GMT 10
You didn’t understand. Being closer and having more commonalities between 1995 than 2011 doesn’t mean they are similar or barely different eras. To the average person on the surface they may seem even more different because they don’t necessarily make the few links between both periods is what I’m saying. No it almost felt like a 10 year difference back then between the atmosphere of starting to come closer to the end of the mid 90s and the late Y2K era entering the early 2000s. I was well into my teens in the early 2000s so I would have a sense of this. Yeah, I got you. Would you consider 1991 as being closer in pop culture and everything to 2001 than 2001 is to 2011? Just barely possibly even equally distant in this regard. The only thing I can think of is a lot of things that first appeared in 1991 were to good extent still in style in 1995-early 1997, much less in late 1997 to early 1999 and just tiny traces from late 1999-2002. You would find a few people in 2001 in any given crowd who’d still wore curtained hair and flannels or generic 90s clothing or hair, a visible minority held on to their original gameboys, still used TVs from the early 90s, VHS was still pretty popular, a number of shows popular in 91 were still on going, baggy pants and casual fashion in 2001 had some connections to 91 but more so roots in 92/93-97. Rock music was quite popular like 91, but genres were mostly different, like but the earliest shared similarities would be 94-96. I would say a lot of rap in earlier 2001 sounds similar at times to stuff from 1994-1995. Modern Internet first started in 1991 but it didn’t really become a widespread thing and properly develop until 1994 and 1995. For 2011 common things would be in both periods the internet and cellphones were standard and common. A lot of film genres or types of movie franchises just starting in 2001 would become in really popular in 2011 ex superhero films maybe even comedy style. Electronic music, techno music were big in both periods and had an overwhelming influence on pop and radio music and a few vaguely similar pop formulas or techniques were also shared in both periods and the digital graphic asthetic that was big in 2000-2001ish still sort of carried through even though a bit different by 2011 and CGI was standard in both periods. A few people had traces of casual early 2000s fashion to some extent in 2011.
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