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Post by John Titor on Mar 22, 2022 8:14:48 GMT 10
The idea that 2009 isn't a real 2000s year, even if it was more early 2010s culturally, it was still 2000s. Also the fact that people say 2020 was still late 2010s culturally (at least after March). COVID changed everything, TikTok blew up BIG TIME in 2020. Now everyone knew what it was. In 2019 I wasn't even aware of it. A big factor in 2009 feeling super removed is a ton of classic 2000s shows were off the air by the time 2009 came around, as well as several stores. That is not the only reason, but a big factor is a big gaping hole in television programming.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 22, 2022 8:34:02 GMT 10
The idea that 2009 isn't a real 2000s year, even if it was more early 2010s culturally, it was still 2000s. Also the fact that people say 2020 was still late 2010s culturally (at least after March). COVID changed everything, TikTok blew up BIG TIME in 2020. Now everyone knew what it was. In 2019 I wasn't even aware of it. A big factor in 2009 feeling super removed is a ton of classic 2000s shows were off the air by the time 2009 came around, as well as several stores. That is not the only reason, but a big factor is a big gaping hole in television programming. I'll agree with this. And I'll add from my own perspective with my favorite TV network: Cartoon Network, one of, if not the biggest offender of this. Throughout the 2000s, you had iconic shows like Ed Edd n Eddy, Billy and Mandy, Kids Next Door, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Camp Lazlo. But by 2009, all of these shows had ended. Foster's and Ed Edd n Eddy in particular ended in 2009. Also having ended by then was Toonami. The end result was that Cartoon Network felt empty during the whole 2008-2009 time frame. Most of what Cartoon Network aired were filler shows, acquired programs (mostly Canadian), and worst of all, LIVE-ACTION SHOWS. The only noteworthy originals to point out were Chowder and Flapjack, whilst the only core 2000s Cartoon Network show to carry over was Ben 10, in the form of Alien Force. This actually ended up happening again in the 2010s, when iconic shows like Game of Thrones, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, and My Little Pony were either gone or ending by 2019. In my opinion, 2009 isn't purely 2000s, but it also isn't a 2010s year, as some on here claim. It and 2008 are sort of in an era all onto their own, after flip phones began to die down, but before touchscreen smartphones took off. The GFC era, that's what I call it.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 10, 2022 3:28:39 GMT 10
This is from city-data, and was posted in 2014, but still I can't think of a worse decadeology take than THIS
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Post by John Titor on Apr 10, 2022 4:09:10 GMT 10
This is from city-data, and was posted in 2014, but still I can't think of a worse decadeology take than THIS lmaoo
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Post by astropoug on Apr 10, 2022 4:34:54 GMT 10
I didn't put the rest of the decades on here because they actually aren't that bad of takes, but come the fuck on, 2006 is UNQUESTIONABLY part of the 2000s zeitgeist and is more 2000s than either 2002 or 2003 (which are labeled as part of the zeitgeist). There's nothing 2010s about it either. 2005 and 2006 are the pure 2000s years with zero 90s or 2010s influence. Likewise, 2009 is definitely not a part of the 2010s zeitgeist with people still using MySpace, scene kids being everywhere, YouTube videos still being amateurish, us still being in the recession, thick-line pre-CalArts cartoons, slider phones and even feature phones being common, and the lack of internet activism culture. I personally regard 2011 as the start of the 2010s zeitgeist with the official release of Minecraft, hipster culture exploding in the mainstream, smartphones becoming ubiquitous, Occupy Wall Street, the capture of Osama Bin Laden, Windows 7 becoming the most popular version of Windows, the premiere of Game of Thrones, and bronies becoming big. I also regard 2007 as the first 2010s prelude year, with the release of the iPhone, Netflix launching its streaming platform, the start of the PRISM program, Obama announcing his run for president, the start of the recession, and Facebook starting to become popular.
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Post by 10slover on Apr 10, 2022 9:17:12 GMT 10
That's we're still in the 2010s in a general way
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Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 10, 2022 9:35:11 GMT 10
This is from city-data, and was posted in 2014, but still I can't think of a worse decadeology take than THIS There are a surprising amount of snobbish boomers who think the 00s blend into the 2010s.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 10, 2022 9:36:53 GMT 10
This is from city-data, and was posted in 2014, but still I can't think of a worse decadeology take than THIS There are a surprising amount of snobbish boomers who think the 00s blend into the 2010s. The late 2000s do blend into 2010 and 2011, electropop was popular in the late 2000s just as it was in 2010 and 2011, Hipster rose in 2008 and became defactor standard in 2011, Obama became the next president in 2008 and took his seat January 2009. There was a recession from 07 to 09 and it's echo effects lasted until 2014, The Iphone was launched in January 2007 and became standard in the early 2010s, Blackberry pearl came out in late 06 and became mainstream well into 2010 and 2011 and then after that it declined.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 10, 2022 10:07:54 GMT 10
There are a surprising amount of snobbish boomers who think the 00s blend into the 2010s. The late 2000s do blend into 2010 and 2011, electropop was popular in the late 2000s just as it was in 2010 and 2011, Hipster rose in 2008 and became defactor standard in 2011, Obama became the next president in 2008 and took his seat January 2009. There was a recession from 07 to 09 and it's echo effects lasted until 2014, The Iphone was launched in January 2007 and became standard in the early 2010s, Blackberry pearl came out in late 06 and became mainstream well into 2010 and 2011 and then after that it declined. That’s one of the reasons the city-data take is so bad. Not only is 2006 clearly pure 2000s with nothing 2010s about it, but the prelude of the 2010s clearly began in 2007, and lasted until 2010 or 2011, depending on when you believe the 2010s zeitgeist began. The echo of 2000s culture began in 2008, when I believe the 2000s zeitgeist ended, and continued until 2011. You and I know a lot changed in 2009, but it’s definitely not a part of either the 2000s OR 2010s zeitgeist. I feel the same way about 2008 and 2010. 2011 I’m on the fence about. 2012 is part of the 2010s zeitgeist for sure though.
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Post by 10slover on Apr 10, 2022 10:40:21 GMT 10
This is from city-data, and was posted in 2014, but still I can't think of a worse decadeology take than THIS There are a surprising amount of snobbish boomers who think the 00s blend into the 2010s. It's really not just a boomer thing at all People of all aves literally group 2010-2013 with the "early 2000s"
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Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 10, 2022 10:45:39 GMT 10
There are a surprising amount of snobbish boomers who think the 00s blend into the 2010s. It's really not just a boomer thing at all People of all aves literally group 2010-2013 with the "early 2000s" Young zoomers lump the early 10s in with the 00s, Boomers lump 2005+ in with the 10s
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Post by John Titor on Apr 10, 2022 11:15:26 GMT 10
It's really not just a boomer thing at all People of all aves literally group 2010-2013 with the "early 2000s" Young zoomers lump the early 10s in with the 00s, Boomers lump 2005+ in with the 10sIt's usually 2008 2009 they lump with the 2010s because Obama was the president in the 2000s and 2010s, Electropop was popular in both periods, as well as the recession that started in 2007 and ended in 2009 ( with echo effects lasting until 2014 )
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Post by rainbow on Apr 10, 2022 11:19:10 GMT 10
People who group 2008 with 2012 as part of the same era. These years were very different from each other. 2008 still had a ton of core 2000's influences whereas 2012 was already on the verge of core 2010's culture. They really don't have a lot in common and I'm tired of seeing "2008-2012" grouped as an era.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 10, 2022 11:24:09 GMT 10
People who group 2008 with 2012 as part of the same era. These years were very different from each other. 2008 still had a ton of core 2000's influences whereas 2012 was already on the verge of core 2010's culture. They really don't have a lot in common and I'm tired of seeing "2008-2012" grouped as an era. I think they do have some similarities but not a lot. I think 2012 is really where you started to see mobile influences in desktop operating systems like Windows 8, flat design, CalArts style cartoons, hipsters, PewDiePie becoming popular, Instagram becoming popular, the Wii U, etc. Whereas in 2008, you had skeuomorphism, thick-line cartoons, scene kids, Fred, MySpace, the OG Wii, etc. It's very different. And Bush was still president in 2008 even despite the election.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 10, 2022 12:25:30 GMT 10
Here’s a fun fact about me and city-data.. I got banned from that website For supposed “trolling”, even though I only made a few posts at once, some hot takes, and they thought it was grounds for being banned indefinitely. There’s lots of dumb people on that site, and it shows in their takes on decades.
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