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Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 18, 2022 7:41:34 GMT 10
I saw this on a comment on 2010s music, but what do you think of this take? Good or bad? Sounds off. 2010 is musically distinct from 2011 but i'll let it slide since electropop was common in both years. 2012-2015 shouldn't be lumped together when dubstep and electropop was big in 2012 and what is "Chainvaping" supposed to me in regards to music? Chainsmokers made like 1 or 2 big hits back then. The latin wave was also pretty much dead by 2019 iirc. Weird how he wrote 2018-2019 instead of 2017-2018. If anything he should have just titled it the mumble rap era, that would perfectly fit the bill.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 18, 2022 8:17:46 GMT 10
I saw this on a comment on 2010s music, but what do you think of this take? Good or bad? Sounds off. 2010 is musically distinct from 2011 but i'll let it slide since electropop was common in both years. 2012-2015 shouldn't be lumped together when dubstep and electropop was big in 2012 and what is "Chainvaping" supposed to me in regards to music? Chainsmokers made like 1 or 2 big hits back then. The latin wave was also pretty much dead by 2019 iirc. Weird how he wrote 2018-2019 instead of 2017-2018. If anything he should have just titled it the mumble rap era, that would perfectly fit the bill. it's because electropop was popular in 08 and 09
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Post by bestmvp29 on Jun 13, 2022 17:45:29 GMT 10
I saw this on a comment on 2010s music, but what do you think of this take? Good or bad? This is honestly not that bad of a take and actually kinda accurate (to an extent of course, not entirely but I get an idea of what he means by this) because the 2012-2015 period was the "2010s that we used to know" and is totally dated now, while 2010-2011 was kinda post-2000s for the most part (maybe even 2012). 2016-2017 did have that Chainsmokers vibe and the vaping was hugely prevalent. And 2018-2019 was Billie Eilish's prime (who I now consider a late 10's artist since she became irrelevant by 2021) and I guess Latin pop was relevant thanks to Despacito.
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Post by bestmvp29 on Jun 13, 2022 17:50:18 GMT 10
Another one of the most crackhead decadeology takes (this will be controversial):
That late 2008 to mid 2009 was THE transition between the late 2000s and early 2010s.
And also:
That 2006, let alone 2005, had 10's influence (I also disagree with 2007 having any real 10's influence but that one is actually a reasonable take)
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Post by astropoug on Jun 13, 2022 17:58:18 GMT 10
Another one of the most crackhead decadeology takes (this will be controversial): That late 2008 to mid 2009 was THE transition between the late 2000s and early 2010s. Yeah, I definitely agree. Late 2008-mid 2009 was part of the transition, but only part of the story. I’d say the full transistion period was late 2008-mid 2010. By late 2010, we had fully shifted into the early 2010s IMO. I think the 2008-2009 school year is very much the late 00s with some early 10s influence. Whilst 2009-2010 is more accurate of the late 00s/early 10s transition. It didn’t quite feel like 2007-2008, but also not really like 2011-2012 either. Lots of important early 10s things like dubstep, brony fandom, neon blue aesthetics, Adventure Time/Regular Show, rage comics, etc. we’re not a thing yet. Even things like Minecraft and Angry Birds, whilst they existed, wouldn’t become big until 2010-2011.
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Post by astropoug on Jun 13, 2022 18:03:14 GMT 10
Ah yes, 2005 and 2006, widely considered the most quintessential years of the 2000s. They have so much 2010s influence. 2007 I think is the first year that really has 10s influence because of things like the iPhone releasing, Netflix streaming, and Obama announcing his run for presidency.
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Post by bestmvp29 on Jun 13, 2022 18:46:06 GMT 10
Ah yes, 2005 and 2006, widely considered the most quintessential years of the 2000s. They have so much 2010s influence. 2007 I think is the first year that really has 10s influence because of things like the iPhone releasing, Netflix streaming, and Obama announcing his run for presidency. Yeah. The "10's influence" that those years had were obviously just late 2000s influences.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jun 13, 2022 19:12:16 GMT 10
Another one of the most crackhead decadeology takes (this will be controversial): That late 2008 to mid 2009 was THE transition between the late 2000s and early 2010s. Yeah, I definitely agree. Late 2008-mid 2009 was part of the transition, but only part of the story. I’d say the full transistion period was late 2008-mid 2010. By late 2010, we had fully shifted into the early 2010s IMO. I think the 2008-2009 school year is very much the late 00s with some early 10s influence. Whilst 2009-2010 is more accurate of the late 00s/early 10s transition. It didn’t quite feel like 2007-2008, but also not really like 2011-2012 either. Lots of important early 10s things like dubstep, brony fandom, neon blue aesthetics, Adventure Time/Regular Show, rage comics, etc. we’re not a thing yet. Even things like Minecraft and Angry Birds, whilst they existed, wouldn’t become big until 2010-2011. 2008-2009 was the political transition to the 10s but culturally the 2010s wasn't anywhere near established by the end of the school year. 2011 is when 10s culture became clear.
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Post by astropoug on Jun 13, 2022 19:14:28 GMT 10
I remember seeing Infinity saying 2006 was 2010s-influenced because of the fact that YouTubers like AVGN and Smosh were making videos by then, and that consoles like the PS3 and Wii came out, coupled with Xbox 360 becoming popular. Infinity makes great posts most of the time but I personally don’t really agree with her analysis. Whilst AVGN did influence many online reviewers over the coming years, the channel itself peaked in the late 00s, specifically the 2006-2008 timeframe. Even if he made videos later on, he was never as big as he was then. He also was part of the whole “angry reviewer” and general angry humor trend that was also very late 00s (see also: Angry German Kid, Tourette Guy, Irate Gamer). And as for Smosh, whilst yes, they did continue to be popular into the early 2010s, with certain things, notably Food Battle continuing to be popular for years, but have you actually WATCHED 2006-era Smosh?
The videos are INCREDIBLY amateurish by today’s standards, with very basic editing and effects that can be pretty easily replicated so long as you have capable software. There’s also the obligatory fact that it’s a 240p video, which was the highest YouTube had back in 2006, and would’ve been unacceptable even in 2010, especially from high-quality professional YouTubers. For comparison, this is that same series in 2010:
Much higher quality of production in terms of editing, effects, audio, and camerawork. Not to mention, it’s in HD, which was IMPOSSIBLE until mid 2009. It also has a custom thumbnail, another thing which didn’t become a thing until 2009. As for gaming, the Wii is largely a late 00s thing. It was huge late 2006-2009, still had some popularity in 2010, and then dropped off by 2011. The PS3 was not successful in the late 00s and didn’t get any kind of success until at least 2008 with MGS 4 and Little Big Planet, but really late 2009 with the PS3 Slim and Uncharted 2. The Xbox 360 becoming popular and Gears of War coming out is the only thing I’ll give. I think the only real 2010s influence that 2006 had besides Gears of War was the fact Facebook launched to the GP in late 2006. Even if it wasn’t really popular yet, I would indeed consider it a 2010s influence. But the 2010s influences are so goddamn minor in 2006, and really only apply to late 2006. Early-mid 2006 has no 2010s influence PERIOD.
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Post by astropoug on Jun 13, 2022 19:15:59 GMT 10
Yeah, I definitely agree. Late 2008-mid 2009 was part of the transition, but only part of the story. I’d say the full transistion period was late 2008-mid 2010. By late 2010, we had fully shifted into the early 2010s IMO. I think the 2008-2009 school year is very much the late 00s with some early 10s influence. Whilst 2009-2010 is more accurate of the late 00s/early 10s transition. It didn’t quite feel like 2007-2008, but also not really like 2011-2012 either. Lots of important early 10s things like dubstep, brony fandom, neon blue aesthetics, Adventure Time/Regular Show, rage comics, etc. we’re not a thing yet. Even things like Minecraft and Angry Birds, whilst they existed, wouldn’t become big until 2010-2011. 2008-2009 was the political transition to the 10s but culturally the 2010s wasn't anywhere near established by the end of the school year. 2011 is when 10s culture became clear. For me, late 2010 is when the culture became predominantly 2010s, or at least early 2010s. I agree with you on 2008-2009. That year was really only transistional in a political sense. From a cultural sense, it was late 00s as fuck.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jun 13, 2022 19:55:34 GMT 10
2008-2009 was the political transition to the 10s but culturally the 2010s wasn't anywhere near established by the end of the school year. 2011 is when 10s culture became clear. For me, late 2010 is when the culture became predominantly 2010s, or at least early 2010s. I agree with you on 2008-2009. That year was really only transistional in a political sense. From a cultural sense, it was late 00s as fuck. People say electropop took off then but still most hit songs from 2009 were 00ish music or a fusion between 00s and electropop.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jun 13, 2022 20:35:59 GMT 10
2008-2009 was the political transition to the 10s but culturally the 2010s wasn't anywhere near established by the end of the school year. 2011 is when 10s culture became clear. For me, late 2010 is when the culture became predominantly 2010s, or at least early 2010s. I agree with you on 2008-2009. That year was really only transistional in a political sense. From a cultural sense, it was late 00s as fuck. Late 2010s works but 2011 is when smartphones became mainstream
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Post by John Titor on Jun 14, 2022 1:26:33 GMT 10
For me, late 2010 is when the culture became predominantly 2010s, or at least early 2010s. I agree with you on 2008-2009. That year was really only transistional in a political sense. From a cultural sense, it was late 00s as fuck. People say electropop took off then but still most hit songs from 2009 were 00ish music or a fusion between 00s and electropop.This is not fusion at all, you might need a hearing aide my bro
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Post by John Titor on Jun 14, 2022 1:28:25 GMT 10
Another one of the most crackhead decadeology takes (this will be controversial): That late 2008 to mid 2009 was THE transition between the late 2000s and early 2010s. And also: That 2006, let alone 2005, had 10's influence (I also disagree with 2007 having any real 10's influence but that one is actually a reasonable take) In the grander scheme of things Q4 2006 and early 2007 set up the 2010s, but the transition was indeed still going until 2010 and 2011, 2008 and 2009 had shades of 2010s but it was not 100% a 2010s year.
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Post by astropoug on Jun 14, 2022 4:36:21 GMT 10
r/generationology has the WORST takes https://www.reddit.com/r/generationology/comments/us0izo/follow_up_to_my_previous_post_about_the_overall/
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